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View Poll Results: Choose the best prospect from the following list
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Acolatse
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3 |
1.46% |
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Billins
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3 |
1.46% |
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Carroll
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0% |
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Cundari
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2 |
0.98% |
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Deblouw
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0% |
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Elson
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0% |
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Gilmour
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4 |
1.95% |
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Hanowski
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15 |
7.32% |
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Harrison
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1.95% |
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Hickey
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62 |
30.24% |
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Jooris
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0% |
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Ollas Mattson
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21 |
10.24% |
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Rafikov
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5 |
2.44% |
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Ramage
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8 |
3.90% |
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Roy
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6 |
2.93% |
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Thiessen
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0% |
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Van Brabant
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3 |
1.46% |
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Wolf
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69 |
33.66% |
08-04-2014, 09:36 AM
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#1
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Summer 2014 Prospect Ranking Poll Rd22
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08-04-2014, 09:41 AM
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#2
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Franchise Player
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Between Wolf and Hickey I'd have to give a slight edge to Wolf.
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08-04-2014, 09:43 AM
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#3
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Who no love for Hanowski?
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08-04-2014, 09:44 AM
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#4
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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I am picking OM, I still think we got a steal with that late 6th rounder. Hickey is a close 2nd.
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08-04-2014, 09:44 AM
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#5
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
Who no love for Hanowski?
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I picked him last time, but I am starting to think that other prospects are ranked better. Imo, he is a Nemisz 2.0.
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08-04-2014, 09:56 AM
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#6
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kalispell, Montana
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Gilmour..3rd round in a row for me.
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08-04-2014, 09:58 AM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Hmmm. I forgot that Ramage is still on the board. While the Flames current weakness in the system is on defense, there are still a handful of intriguing defensemen left outside the top-20 that could surprise.
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08-04-2014, 10:01 AM
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#8
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Ollas Mattson. He was a steal where he was picked in this draft. Still needs to work on quite a few things, but already has an NHL frame. Could be quite a nice surprise.
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08-04-2014, 10:12 AM
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#9
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Hmmm. I forgot that Ramage is still on the board. While the Flames current weakness in the system is on defense, there are still a handful of intriguing defensemen left outside the top-20 that could surprise.
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Ramage got sent down to the Alaska Aces, so I think his upside isn't as good as some other prospects.
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08-04-2014, 10:15 AM
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#10
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vulcan
Ramage got sent down to the Alaska Aces, so I think his upside isn't as good as some other prospects.
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I always thought he looked quite good when he was with Wisconsin. Last year was his first professional season. You may be right, but we should also be quick to consider that his struggles were part of the adjustment period. This year we will know much better for sure.
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08-04-2014, 10:41 AM
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#11
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Explain how people are voting Wolf over Hickey?
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08-04-2014, 10:48 AM
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#12
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
Explain how people are voting Wolf over Hickey?
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Some posters are setting a very high value on "NHL readiness."
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08-04-2014, 10:48 AM
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#13
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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I don't consider Wolf a prospect. He's been a pro for a while now...
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08-04-2014, 10:53 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
Explain how people are voting Wolf over Hickey?
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Same thing I said last poll. He's big, mean and quick. All things this management is looking for in players. He is going to be given every opportunity to succeed, thus the chances for him making it are higher IMO. This management team wants Wolf to make the Flames this year.
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08-04-2014, 11:06 AM
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#15
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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I don't see Wolf making the Flames with the signings of Bollig and Byron.
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08-04-2014, 11:17 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
I don't consider Wolf a prospect. He's been a pro for a while now...
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Granlund has played 4 years of professional hockey as well. Is he a prospect?
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08-04-2014, 11:20 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Upstate NY
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Voted Hanowski for the 3rd poll in a row.
But I admit that I am intrigued by Ollas Mattson. Granted he's young, but I wish I knew more about his game.
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08-04-2014, 11:36 AM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Northern Crater
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Wolf is no more a prospect than Ramo, Berra or Cervenka were when we aquired them IMO
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08-04-2014, 11:43 AM
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
Explain how people are voting Wolf over Hickey?
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The DEL and Germany aren't exactly known for producing a lot of players. - Draisaitl was the first German to be drafted since 2007 and he plays in the CHL
- The last German to be drafted that actually became an NHL player was in 2001
- There have only been 9 German's to ever play over 200 games. Every one of them was drafted.
- There have been four undrafted German's to play in the NHL.
- Ronald Fisher is the most successful. He actually developed at the University of Calgary. He played 18 games in the NHL. He never scored a goal.
- Marcell Mueller is one of the only two undrafted German to actually develop in Germany.
- He is 6'3" 218 LBS (Wolf is 6'2" 216 LBS).
- In his last year in the DEL before being acquired he put up 53 GP 24 G 22 A 122 PIMS (Wolf put up 48 GP 14 G 26 A 152 PIMS)
- He started in the AHL but got a 3 game call up in January. He played two seasons for Toronto in the AHL before playing one season in the SEL and then returning to the DEL.
That doesn't paint a very rosy picture of Wolf's chances. The only fair comparable to Wolf is Mueller and he didn't have a successful NHL career.
That said, with only one comparable it isn't a fair sample size. Wolf might be facing long odds, but if he is successful he may have that combination of skill, toughness, and meanness that is really valuable in the bottom 9. I have Wolf, Hickey, and Mattsson really close.
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08-04-2014, 12:01 PM
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First Line Centre
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^^ Solid post. I actually like Wolf a lot as a personality, but he's very unlikely to play in the NHL given the league he played for. He's got an age advantage over a lot of prospects and he was given a contract, so who knows?
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