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Old 03-25-2021, 12:46 AM   #461
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I predicted the Canucks would suck this year...where is my trophy?
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Old 03-25-2021, 12:51 AM   #462
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Never said that...at all

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just saying you have MANY outcomes that make you "right"
Flames would have to be at least top 8 to make anyone positive last year "right" and even that would only be so so unless they were top 4 or better

not sure what more you want me to do...should I erect a shrine with your name...

"guy says team will fail and they do!"

the prophecy is true! go pick some lotto numbers quick
And clearly many outcomes that make you wrong.
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Old 03-25-2021, 12:54 AM   #463
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And clearly many outcomes that make you wrong.
Obviously...if past the first round is the bar 23 out of 31
Final four bar 27 out of 31
Championship 30 out of 31

the odds of being positive are not good at all

After all the BSing of the Canadian div fans one team is coming out, will be the 4th seed without home ice or fans in the semi's playing against Tampa ect. in a full building.

Sports are really terrible
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Old 03-25-2021, 12:54 AM   #464
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I predicted the Canucks would suck this year...where is my trophy?
Your trophy is on its way. It’s a bronze of Jim Benning.
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Old 03-25-2021, 12:58 AM   #465
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Obviously...if past the first round is the bar 23 out of 31
Final four bar 27 out of 31
Championship 30 out of 31

the odds of being a fan are not good at all

Yeah. 31 team league

15 teams don’t even make the playoffs to begin with
15 more end their season on a loss
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Old 03-25-2021, 01:02 AM   #466
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Your trophy is on its way. It’s a bronze of Jim Benning.
only if he is making the "two Granlund's" face
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Oh, it’s bad. The kind of thing you expect to work through in a 82 game season, and sadly I don’t see a path to success this season, given the past few games.

I do expect another chapter but time is running out

Painful for local fans because it’s the year all the Canadian teams play each other so bragging rights are on the line


But ... out of curiosity.. Carolina? Why Carolina?
Fun vibes, good team, Sebastian Aho, and that whole division is fun to follow right now. Tampa is a great team to watch, Florida might finally be going somewhere, Chicago is having a surprise season, and I always have a soft spot for Columbus and Nashville. Lots of top Finns too in that division, with Aho, Teräväinen, Barkov, Laine and Lankinen.


Plus it's got to be something in the east, and my GF would punch me if started to root for any team against her Rangers
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The NHL is not like the NFL. Boston didn't move Chara when they should have. Chicago did not trade Toews and Kane when they should have. SJ did not trade Pavelski when they should have. Philadelphia did not trade Giroux or Voracek when they should have. Every team goes through this.


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The NFL does not have no trade protection. Most of those NHL players you mention likely have NMC.


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Old 03-25-2021, 05:54 AM   #469
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Should’ve been traded summer after winning the Norris.

I hate the New England patriots but Bill belichek has it down to a science, cut a guy or trade him when he’s at peak value with an extremely predictable drop off in sight
I agree this should have occurred and was perfect time to get done at peak.
Unfortunately I was not surprised that Flames Management did not trade Gio. The organization has not planned succession well ever that I can recall since starting to cheer for this team in 1980 other than Fletcher’s intentional building of the team resulting in the 1989 cup.

Team just keeps hoping it’s core will make the jump to another gear in playoffs....
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Old 03-25-2021, 05:58 AM   #470
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The NHL is not like the NFL. Boston didn't move Chara when they should have. Chicago did not trade Toews and Kane when they should have. SJ did not trade Pavelski when they should have. Philadelphia did not trade Giroux or Voracek when they should have. Every team goes through this.


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This is correct. Always bugs me when people say Iginla should have been traded sooner.

I can’t think of a SC contender that was built through trading away of future HOFers.
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Agreed.

Still doesn’t make it right. Shouldn’t have to pay up front for services you don’t know you’re gonna get, nfl is by far the most “fair pay for fair play” league in North America.
If you consider fair play to be at legimate risk debilitating brain injury.

Would you feel the same way about your own contract situation if your next work day could be your last ever, or even worse, you had a pretty good idea that you were accumulating brain damage every day?

NFL is a ruthless operation and there is a massive list of broken humans in its wake. Not a good model to aspire to, IMO.
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This is correct. Always bugs me when people say Iginla should have been traded sooner.

I can’t think of a SC contender that was built through trading away of future HOFers.
Avalanche.
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Old 03-25-2021, 07:44 AM   #473
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Giordano still has a lot of trade value if the Flames wanted to go that route IMO. It would be a rebuilding type trade for picks and prospects though
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Really interesting information from Dom Luszczyszyn;

https://theathletic.com/author/dom-luszczyszyn/

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16. With yet another victory against Calgary Wednesday night, the Senators improved to 5-2-0 in the season series. They’ve had their number all season and have given Toronto and Montreal similar fits, going 10-7-0 against those three teams. They’re 1-12-3 against Edmonton, Winnipeg, and Vancouver (credit to Conor Hogan on Twitter for finding this), which brings up an interesting question about how important team style is when predicting which teams will win.

Edmonton and Winnipeg are two of the most rush-oriented teams in the league while Calgary and Montreal are two of the most forecheck-oriented teams according to data tracked by Sznajder (Toronto and Vancouver are closer to average). That matters and is probably the main reason a hard-working, but low-skilled Senators team can hold their own against one group, but not the other. The intra-division games have been very interesting in illuminating the importance of stylistic matchups with the Senators being a particularly extreme example. It’s difficult to figure out with the limitations of current data, but it definitely seems like something worth looking into.
I'm not a Hartley fan but I much preferred when the Flames played a faster paced game. That's not going to happen under Sutter but I do think that a big issue with this team is they simply don't have the roster to play a dump and chase style.
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I predicted the Canucks would suck this year...where is my trophy?
I predicted the Senators would be better than anticipated... where’s my kick to the balls?
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Old 03-25-2021, 07:57 AM   #476
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Post game links
http://sportsstats.cbc.ca/hockey/nhl...cap134099.html
https://scores.nbcsports.com/nhl/box...s=3&final=true
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Old 03-25-2021, 08:06 AM   #477
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We should bump the bold predictions thread
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Old 03-25-2021, 08:43 AM   #478
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We should bump the bold predictions thread
Did anyone guess Darryl Sutter back to Flames, Flames still suck?
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Old 03-25-2021, 08:49 AM   #479
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Did anyone guess Darryl Sutter back to Flames, Flames still suck?
There was a Tippett fired and mctavish back prediction. Kinda close.

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Old 03-25-2021, 09:14 AM   #480
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The guy has made over 50 million as Flame (probably 25-30M net). He's had a great career, and is still a good dman in my opinion, but he isn't above criticism. Nobody on this team should be immune from criticism with the garbage we are seeing lately.
Criticism is one thing.

One of these MFs legit said that Gio should hang up the skates on his hockey career because he wasn’t good enough to play at his salary.

Guy goes undrafted, works his ass off, plays in the K, wears our crest his entire NHL career, wins a Norris, and has been top D man for years. The guy ages, and is saddled with a n underperforming team now, and some clown seriously thinks he should just call it quits on his career?
That’s some next level ######. ####ing embarrassing.
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