Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by simmer2

It's a fair point. I'm not on social media so I can't do it there. But I tend to agree with you.

A good start would be to stop appointing party leaders who cater to these idiots by using the words "woke," "radical left," and "socialism" to describe anything they don't agree with.

[Kaine]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

What's going on down there is scary so clearly I'm thinking post Trump. Still there's lots of things to consider so while it may seem like a good idea to some Canadians, there's many potential downsides that a lot of people that would support it aren't probably looking closely enough as many take healthcare and our safety for granted. I can see that a lot of posters area already getting defensive and jumping on me even though I never said I would support it, only that I'm worried about my boys and what the younger generations have to look forward to in this country given the current state of affairs.

I just want to say that this place is getting pretty hostile. Wow.

Muses that everyone else should be forced to join America because you "think" it might be better for your boys.


Calls everyone hostile when they suggest that you can leave yourself and leave everyone else to stay where they want. The minority wanting to make decisions for the overwhelming majority again.


You wonder why the "hostility"? What a strange take.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

In all fairness... isn't Corey Hogan the type of person that should be in cabinet regardless of where he's elected from?

Like, I get that he's one of two Liberal MPs elected from Alberta and that should result in at least one of the two being in Cabinet regardless. But, if Corey Hogan was elected in say Toronto-St. Paul's, Mount Royal, or Ottawa-Centre shouldn't he still be in Cabinet?

Is he though? What makes him more qualified than other elected Liberal MPs? He doesn't have a record as an elected official. He has some experience working on campaigns but outside of being a western seat is he really more qualified? I obviously want more western representation but should any elected western MP get a Ministerial role (like Randy B)?

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Is he though? What makes him more qualified than other elected Liberal MPs? He doesn't have a record as an elected official. He has some experience working on campaigns but outside of being a western seat is he really more qualified? I obviously want more western representation but should any elected western MP get a Ministerial role (like Randy B)?

Spoiler!

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

Would be quite something for Poilievre to parachute into an Edmonton riding where the CPC got less than 50% of the vote.

Can Carney delay the by election by the exact same length as Danielle Smith delayed the ones here?

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

Spoiler!

You're essentially posing the argument that he should be in a cabinet position as a "DEI" member because he represents the west? Removing regional bias what makes him better than other elected Liberal MPs?

Hogan, who was named a replacement candidate in Calgary Confederation a week into the campaign, said he has no idea what he's supposed to do next as a new member of Parliament.

"I am the deer in the headlights," Hogan joked Tuesday in an interview with The Canadian Press. "I refused to look up anything about the nuts and bolts of being an MP out of superstition, so last night I'm sitting there at 2 in the morning Googling 'How do you get sworn in as an MP?'

"What's the process? When am I supposed to go to Ottawa? Am I waiting for a phone call from somebody?"

This is the guy you want as a Cabinet Minister just because he is from Alberta/Calgary?

[#-3]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Is he though? What makes him more qualified than other elected Liberal MPs? He doesn't have a record as an elected official. He has some experience working on campaigns but outside of being a western seat is he really more qualified? I obviously want more western representation but should any elected western MP get a Ministerial role (like Randy B)?

Chair of a Provincial political party,
Director of Communications for the Province of Alberta
Senior VP Communications at UofC
Part of the top independent political podcast in the country.

Hardly a low profile, experienced MP no, but definitely has the profile of a young star candidate that would go straight into cabinet.

[Whynotnow]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

You're essentially posing the argument that he should be in a cabinet position as a "DEI" member because he represents the west? Removing regional bias what makes him better than other elected Liberal MPs?



This is the guy you want as a Cabinet Minister just because he is from Alberta/Calgary?

Tell me you’re joking, except I know you are not. He’s having a light hearted moment about not knowing what’s next. Literally every first time candidate who wasn’t some sort of member of staff of an mp would have no clue what’s next.

Relax.

[simmer2]

Originally Posted by rubecube

A good start would be to stop appointing party leaders who cater to these idiots by using the words "woke," "radical left," and "socialism" to describe anything they don't agree with.

My preference is for the language on both extreme ends to be used less. I don't think it's productive and just resorts to name-calling vs discussing the actual issues.

Extreme right, maga, redneck. None of those are helpful either.

Socialism I think is OK to use, as long as it is used in the proper context. Socialism is akin to maybe a capitalist on the other side??

All these made up words to grab headlines and instill fear drive me crazy, then they catch on and it becomes normal to use them.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by simmer2

My preference is for the language on both extreme ends to be used less. I don't think it's productive and just resorts to name-calling vs discussing the actual issues.

Extreme right, maga, redneck. None of those are helpful either.

Okay, but there was only one leader who has been using that type of language for the last 2.5 years.

If decorum is that important to you, shouldn't you be leading by example and not supporting a leader who engages the most in that type of behavior?

Socialism I think is OK to use, as long as it is used in the proper context. Socialism is akin to maybe a capitalist on the other side??

Except PP never used it in the proper context. He called Trudeau, Carney and Singh all socialists and radical leftists.

Canada doesn't have a mainstream socialist party. PP also said the Nazis were socialists, which isn't just wrong, it's disrespectful and offensive to the many socialists who were murdered by the Nazis.

As a political science major, he should know this. So either he knows better and is being deliberately inflammatory, or he's a god damn moron.

So again, I ask you, if decorum is as important to you as you seem to suggest it is, why do you keep supporting someone who frequently and deliberately shows zero regard for it?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Dickless Don said Carney will be at the White House in a week.

[Paulie Walnuts]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1917396917165699576

[simmer2]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Okay, but there was only one leader who has been using that type of language for the last 2.5 years.

If decorum is that important to you, shouldn't you be leading by example and not supporting a leader who engages the most in that type of behavior?



Except PP never used it in the proper context. He called Trudeau, Carney and Singh all socialists and radical leftists.

Canada doesn't have a mainstream socialist party. PP also said the Nazis were socialists, which isn't just wrong, it's disrespectful and offensive to the many socialists who were murdered by the Nazis.

As a political science major, he should know this. So either he knows better and is being deliberately inflammatory, or he's a god damn moron.

So again, I ask you, if decorum is as important to you as you seem to suggest it is, why do you keep supporting someone who frequently and deliberately shows zero regard for it?

Because I ignore most of what is said and largely vote based on fiscal policies and what I think will be best for the economy.

Nearly all politicians drive me crazy and I can't stand listening to almost all of them.

I care about what they do, not what they say.

So today I am hopeful that Carney can be fiscally responsible and make good decisions for our economy. And I wait to see what he does.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by simmer2

Because I ignore most of what is said and largely vote based on fiscal policies and what I think will be best for the economy.

I care about what they do, not what they say.

How do you know what they're going to do if you don't listen to what they say?

[simmer2]

Originally Posted by rubecube

How do you know what they're going to do if you don't listen to what they say?

I read their platform then I read what actions they do. Filtering through papers to find facts isn't the easiest these days, but I do that.

Also follow key metrics for the economy related to Canadian performance.

Stay away as best I can from the noise.

Helps me stay sane.

Then I wade into CP....haha.....

[mikephoen]

Originally Posted by simmer2

I read their platform then I read what actions they do. Filtering through papers to find facts isn't the easiest these days, but I do that.

Also follow key metrics for the economy related to Canadian performance.

Stay away as best I can from the noise.

Helps me stay sane.

Then I wade into CP....haha.....

Let me guess, the 'key metric' you follow is GDP Growth per Capita. A stat you'd never heard of until the right wing bots started pushing it heavily 6 months ago.

[Kipperriffic]

Conservative party please don't listen to idiots like Lantsman, Sheer, and - oh god this guy - Andrew Lawton. Don't let Poilievre stay because he drags the party down from its true potential.

I want to vote for them, but I can't even look at their policies when they have low tier leaders. They could have such a good sensible leader, there is no shortage of them

Conservatives got a lot of votes only because in general Canadians were turning out a lot in this election; They can't let this make them think Poilievre has anything to do with that.

[simmer2]

Originally Posted by mikephoen

Let me guess, the 'key metric' you follow is GDP Growth per Capita. A stat you'd never heard of until the right wing bots started pushing it heavily 6 months ago.

You've framed this question in an incredibly mature way....

On a monthly basis we follow:

Canadian consumer index
AB and BC Building permits
Canadian unemployment
Canadian household debt to GDP
Canada CPI
Canada nonfarm payroll
Usd/Cad rate
Canada purchasing managers index

While imperfect, we try to see what trends are showing up.

[puffnstuff]

Maybe I missed it but who is 'we'?

[simmer2]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Maybe I missed it but who is 'we'?

My business partner and I.