I've seen the argument, that the same MPs are still going to be in cabinet and positions of power, so that the overall Liberal Party will remain the same beast as the last 9 years. I am interested to see the cabinet and department changes. I think that there will be some interesting new faces.
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I'm still trying to understand how some people (re: conservative voters) see our country as some kind of hellhole because the Liberals are in federal power. My life in Calgary rarely changes when it's its a Liberal or Conservative federal government. I still have the mountains, I still go out to restaurants here and there, I still see family and friends, and I'm still gainfully employed regardless of what bozo is in Parliament in Ottawa. If they are referring to oil and gas, there are tons of people in this city and province that have made great money, and continue to make great money, in that industry. The industry can be volatile, but life has been incredibly good to those people overall - regardless of federal government.
Some people really need to step away from their monitors, go outside, and enjoy life. We have it REALLY ####ing sweet here in Canada. Other people would give their lives to have the lifestyle that we enjoy here as Canadians - government included.
Well said. In my demographic (30-40, young kids) people mostly complain about education, daycare & healthcare. Most of them then turn around and vote UPC & CPC because of stupid #### like capital gains taxes and WEF BS. I know I posted this before but the brain rot of social media politics is an absolute blight on our society. Like buddy, the two best things that have happened to you politically in the last decade are the transmountain pipeline getting bought and completed, and daycare being subsidized. The worst 2 things that have happened to you are the 35+ kid classrooms and the deregulating of electricity/insurance.
So many anecdotes of people in my circle who vote against their own interest. While all doing like you said, living in 2000+ sq ft suburban homes with 2 nice vehicles and yearly family vacations. Lost decade alright.
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I'm still trying to understand how some people (re: conservative voters) see our country as some kind of hellhole because the Liberals are in federal power. My life in Calgary rarely changes when it's its a Liberal or Conservative federal government. I still have the mountains, I still go out to restaurants here and there, I still see family and friends, and I'm still gainfully employed regardless of what bozo is in Parliament in Ottawa. If they are referring to oil and gas, there are tons of people in this city and province that have made great money, and continue to make great money, in that industry. The industry can be volatile, but life has been incredibly good to those people overall - regardless of federal government.
Some people really need to step away from their monitors, go outside, and enjoy life. We have it REALLY ####ing sweet here in Canada. Other people would give their lives to have the lifestyle that we enjoy here as Canadians - government included.
Agreed, since 2017 my compensation has increased and my spending power has increased.
I am more well off with more disposable income (& I have 2 kids in Uni) than I have ever been and that includes grade 9 UCB that had to have a full time job in the summer.
$hit is pretty fcuking good for me.
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Crossing fingers Corey Hogan gets in as a minister somehow. I'm jealous that Calgary Confederation gets such a qualified individual representing them.
I think if the LPC wants to finally get stubborn CPC voters here to consider voting for them in the future, this is THE move.
"You elected one of ours in Alberta? Great, we're going to give him a ministerial role and visibility in our government. If you'd like to see and have more influence in the federal government, keep voting for us and we'll make sure Alberta has a seat at the adults table."
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I think if the LPC wants to finally get stubborn CPC voters here to consider voting for them in the future, this is THE move.
"You elected one of ours in Alberta? Great, we're going to give him a ministerial role and visibility in our government. If you'd like to see and have more influence in the federal government, keep voting for us and we'll make sure Alberta has a seat at the adults table."
I think some non-Liberal voters also fail to know or remember that Carney grew up in Alberta. If they wanted Alberta representation, we have it right at the top.
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In all fairness... isn't Corey Hogan the type of person that should be in cabinet regardless of where he's elected from?
Like, I get that he's one of two Liberal MPs elected from Alberta and that should result in at least one of the two being in Cabinet regardless. But, if Corey Hogan was elected in say Toronto-St. Paul's, Mount Royal, or Ottawa-Centre shouldn't he still be in Cabinet?
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In all fairness... isn't Corey Hogan the type of person that should be in cabinet regardless of where he's elected from?
Like, I get that he's one of two Liberal MPs elected from Alberta and that should result in at least one of the two being in Cabinet regardless. But, if Corey Hogan was elected in say Toronto-St. Paul's, Mount Royal, or Ottawa-Centre shouldn't he still be in Cabinet?
I'm predicting a Conservative Minority government... Both 338 Canada and CBC are projecting a Liberal majority with 65% and 70% probability respectively, but I don't trust the polls... Not after 2016 in the US. If partisan fanaticism on social media equates to turnout, the CPC base is highly energized. I just have a bad feeling...
Never been more happy to be proven wrong. Though that was too close for comfort... I won't a run a victory lap over this. A lot of people voted Conservative not out of love of Poilievre or the party, but because of what they perceive as betrayal from the LPC under Trudeau. My desired choice won out in the end, but the results indicate a deeply divided country. While I remain firm in my belief that Mark Carney represents the change needed to steer this country in the right direction economically and politically and to stand up to the threats posed south of the border, I'm under no illusion that such change will take time and many of those that voted Conservative may remain embittered until they see the tangible improvement in their lives.
Additionally, I know it is quite fashionable to call Poilievre "Trump-esque," but he conceded the election with dignity and grace and all of us knew he wasn't going to demand is followers to storm the Parliament building or some other crazy s*** and so, for that, I respect him.
It is out of sympathy for Conservative voters and an appeal for national unity that I requested the following comment from Kevin Lamoureux, my newly re-elected MP. I kind of put Kevin on the spot with this question and so his response is not as robust as it could have been, but he is a good guy and has earned enough trust from me over the years to take him at face value. Apologies for the shaky camera. Drank too much of the free coffee and it was a stressful night.
Never been more happy to be proven wrong. Though that was too close for comfort... I won't a run a victory lap over this. A lot of people voted Conservative not out of love of Poilievre or the party, but because of what they perceive as betrayal from the LPC under Trudeau. My desired choice won out in the end, but the results indicate a deeply divided country. While I remain firm in my belief that Mark Carney represents the change needed to steer this country in the right direction economically and politically and to stand up to the threats posed south of the border, I'm under no illusion that such change will take time and many of those that voted Conservative may remain embittered until they see the tangible improvement in their lives.
Additionally, I know it is quite fashionable to call Poilievre "Trump-esque," but he conceded the election with dignity and grace and all of us knew he wasn't going to demand is followers to storm the Parliament building or some other crazy s*** and so, for that, I respect him.
It is out of sympathy for Conservative voters and an appeal for national unity that I requested the following comment from Kevin Lamoureux, my newly re-elected MP. I kind of put Kevin on the spot with this question and so his response is not as robust as it could have been, but he is a good guy and has earned enough trust from me over the years to take him at face value. Apologies for the shaky camera. Drank too much of the free coffee and it was a stressful night.
You won't run a victory lap for predicting a CPC minority?
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Here’s an idea out of left field. Carney appoints a Calgary Conservative MP to his cabinet, maybe even as natural resources minister. Shows he cares about the West and shuts up Smith.
Edit: I know he would give priority to Alberta LIB MPs but the idea of reaching across the floor is interesting.
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I think some non-Liberal voters also fail to know or remember that Carney grew up in Alberta. If they wanted Alberta representation, we have it right at the top.
There is no chance that will suffice. Despite the fact that he was raised here, he could've very easily fit into the conservative mould from a policy perspective and only said positive things about energy and making us a superpower, the core CPC supporters will always hate him because he's on the red team.
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Well said. In my demographic (30-40, young kids) people mostly complain about education, daycare & healthcare. Most of them then turn around and vote UPC & CPC because of stupid #### like capital gains taxes and WEF BS. I know I posted this before but the brain rot of social media politics is an absolute blight on our society. Like buddy, the two best things that have happened to you politically in the last decade are the transmountain pipeline getting bought and completed, and daycare being subsidized. The worst 2 things that have happened to you are the 35+ kid classrooms and the deregulating of electricity/insurance.
So many anecdotes of people in my circle who vote against their own interest. While all doing like you said, living in 2000+ sq ft suburban homes with 2 nice vehicles and yearly family vacations. Lost decade alright.
I was having post golf beers with a friend and his buddy who came to play as a guest at our course Friday before the election.
His buddy starting going off about how everyone better vote conservative, how bad life is under Liberals and where he might have to move to if they win again.
This guy is a very successful mortgage broker, probably makes upper 6 figures per year and is having a cold draft beer, after a round of golf with buddies, sitting on a sunny patio at our country club where membership is $75,000.
A life most people would die for and completely spoiled out of any perspective.
It was a meme worthy experience.
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Here’s an idea out of left field. Carney appoints a Calgary Conservative MP to his cabinet, maybe even as natural resources minister. Shows he cares about the West and shuts up Smith.
Edit: I know he would give priority to Alberta LIB MPs but the idea of reaching across the floor is interesting.
Sounds nice in theory, but it's not really a thing in Westminster political systems. Cabinet members, basically by their definition, have to vote with the government in any matter of real consequence, so no CPC member would ever agree to that. It's tantamount to crossing the floor.
Liberals do things to openly help or placate Alberta and Alberta votes Conservative. Conservatives ignore Alberta like a dead beat parent and Alberta votes Conservative even harder because next time they're in power they got us.
Neither party is incentivized to do anything in Alberta. Liberals get no benefit and Conservatives never get punished.
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I have a 29yo in my family (a cousin's husband) who went all in on the CPC nonsense this year because his work environment has indoctrinated him successfully
This guy has a detached home in Airdrie which he and my cousin bought during the "lost liberal decade". They bought it for just before COVID for around $500k and it is probably worth 650-700k now. They have a daughter with government subsidized daycare, his wife is a social worker employed by the government...
It's anecdotal, but a fascinating contrast of personal situation versus political platform. I'm convinced it all comes down to transphobia which is the only thing he seems to align with PP on on actuality. Although I don't get the transphobia either, since it has never affected him in his life. I guess that goes back to the indoctrination though.
What also drives me nuts is the weaponizing of buzzwords like: libtard, woke, right-winger. This, in turn, has falsely changed the meanings of actual words like liberal, conservatism, etc...
I've heard a few people rail against socialism. FFS, I had to correct them to add that Canada AND the US are socialist. At the least, these countries have MANY socialist elements.
The Conservatism that some people want is not conservatism. It's closer to libertarian. Mark Carney is closer to textbook conservatism than Danielle Smith.
Just basic grade 7 stuff that a lot of people can't or don't want to grasp.
Mind-bottling.
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