2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Cozens literally doesn’t do anything well. It’s really bizarre why Conory is so obsessed with him and even more concerning is we are offering a futures based deal.

I'm not sure Conroy is obsessed with him at all. And I doubt he is offering a futures-based deal, since all the talk is that Buffalo doesn't want futures, but help to turn things around immediately.

It doesn't pay to mistake the talk in the media, or even from knowledgeable posters here on CP, for what Conroy is actually thinking.

[HUSKER4FLAMES]

Originally Posted by Demaeon

Juan Soto.

That’s way out of left field. Like almost right field. I don’t believe the Mets will trade him but If the right meme is out there maybe.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Blaming it all on Buffalo is a cheap cop out. Why didn’t Eichel suck ? Maybe he is reason why Buffalo sucks because he isn’t a good player.

Isn’t this team supposed to be rebuilding ? I don’t recall Tampa, Chicago, LA, Pittsburgh making these type of dumb trades before even showing signs of being a contender.

Like Jay Random said when someone usually shows they aren’t a #1 center it’s because they aren’t a #1 center.

I find when most people are saying #1 center its usually in the same discussion as about half a dozen centers in the league. You get one if those about every three years at the top of the draft. The rest if the league has to make do with good top line centers or as close as possible.

Again you are talking about a guy who just turned 24 whose entire formative years were in a dumpster? If it costs one of our plethora if wingers and he improved marginally he is a middle six Center. Again something we dont really have?

Backs isnt going to get better, the best you can hope is kadri stays where he is but will probably drop that leaves frost and a second year center and rooney?

Still have to ice a team, we dont have room for the wingers we have on the left, defence is ok to pretty good and center is two 35 year olds, frost and a second year center. Kadri gets injured our chances to make the playofs is probably zero.

[OILFAN #81]

Interested to see what happens with Rantanen. If Carolina retains, someone can get Rantanen for 2.3 M. They aren’t close to signing him and Carolina would want something similar to what they traded for him.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by Fan69

I dont think any of us that are interested in him are expecting a power forward we are looking at locking in a young center long term. He just turned 24 statistically between 24 and 28 29 are a players most productive years, so just entering prime.

He has been on a garbage team for a garbage organization his whole career but it shouldnt affect his performance?

If with a better environment and coaching and support no reason he couldnt be good middle six center. Something by next year with Backs gone we have to address regardless. We saw what losing zary did to our center depth its non existent. With the cap going up and a reasonable deal to be had i think its well wirth the risk. We dont need a middle six center? Ya absolutely we do.

I wonder if Backlund will re-sign on a team-friendly deal to finish his career with one team. If he does, he can easily center the 4th line for a few years. Regardless, he may not at that point be a middle six center for us either way. But the Flames still have Zary, Kadri, and Frost and middle six pivots, and at that point, possibly Honzek, although it isn't clear yet whether he will end up in the middle or on the wing. So already at least three centers for the two middle lines, and possibly four, and the proposal is to add a fifth? Unless there is very clear evidence that Cozens is a top line center, the only thing he adds is a right hand shot and an overpriced contract. I might trade Frost for him, but I would be looking for a sweetener to swallow that bloated contract.

What the Flames really need is a center who is capable of playing on the top line. Unfortunatelly, I don't think that Cozens is that player.

You are correct that the system is scarily thin on centers, but at the club level, the addition of Frost and Zary will help a lot. In the next few drafts, the Flames really need to draft some centers with potential upside, much more than they need to draft any other position.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

I wonder if Backlund will re-sign on a team-friendly deal to finish his career with one team. If he does, he can easily center the 4th line for a few years. Regardless, he may not at that point be a middle six center for us either way. But the Flames still have Zary, Kadri, and Frost and middle six pivots, and at that point, possibly Honzek, although it isn't clear yet whether he will end up in the middle or on the wing. So already at least three centers for the two middle lines, and possibly four, and the proposal is to add a fifth? Unless there is very clear evidence that Cozens is a top line center, the only thing he adds is a right hand shot and an overpriced contract. I might trade Frost for him, but I would be looking for a sweetener to swallow that bloated contract.

What the Flames really need is a center who is capable of playing on the top line. Unfortunatelly, I don't think that Cozens is that player.

You are correct that the system is scarily thin on centers, but at the club level, the addition of Frost and Zary will help a lot. In the next few drafts, the Flames really need to draft some centers with potential upside, much more than they need to draft any other position.

Is that not the deal he is on now?

He will be 37 when his current contract ends.

Really doubt they give him anything past it.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Is that not the deal he is on now?

He will be 37 when his current contract ends.

Really doubt they give him anything past it.

I don't think that Backlund will retire after next season. He will probably sign another two-year deal (with a significantly lower AAV) or possibly sign year to year. I think he will likely continue until at least age 39.

Backs does seem to be losing a step, but he would be fine in a 4th line role with reduced minutes, continuing to provide leadership. I would take a 37 year old Backlund over Rooney at any age.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

I don't think that Backlund will retire after next season. He will probably sign another two-year deal (with a significantly lower AAV) or possibly sign year to year. I think he will likely continue until at least age 39.

Backs does seem to be losing a step, but he would be fine in a 4th line role with reduced minutes, continuing to provide leadership. I would take a 37 year old Backlund over Rooney at any age.

I think it will be one year deals from here on out.

[Ped]

Mikael Backlund is 36 years old in less than a month, he has 10 goals, 22 points, and is a plus player. The only thing wrong with him is he's slotted too high on a team that has little depth.

[Ped]

Article in the Athletic this morning suggesting Rantanen's "struggles" in Carolina are more due to luck:

Tulsky is as analytically driven as any GM in league history, and the data certainly backs up that rosy picture just as well as the eye test does. It’s a small sample, of course, but Rantanen leads the Hurricanes in shots per 60 minutes, individual attempts per 60, individual expected goals per 60, individual scoring chances per 60, rebounds created per 60 and takeaways per 60 (per Natural Stat Trick). And in every key metric, Rantanen has dramatically improved from how he fared in Colorado over the first 49 games of the season.
Expected-goals share? Up from 51.86 percent to 63.44.
Scoring-chance share? Up from 55.66 percent to 72.73 (a whopping 64-24 edge at five-on-five).
High-danger chance share? Up from 47.52 percent to 61.54 (24-15).
Compared with his numbers in Colorado, Rantanen is averaging nearly five more shots per 60 minutes, 0.4 more expected individual goals per 60, more than six more individual shots per 60, more than two more rebounds created per 60, and more than one more takeaway per 60. Now, it’s worth pointing out that Brind’Amour’s aggressive, high-volume system can be flattering to just about any player. But Rantanen’s underlying numbers are staggering.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/615...mors-contract/

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Ped

Flames could dump Rooney pretty easily.

I said I'd be happy if he was a fourth liner.

But the price tag would have to match the fourth line slotting. They don't have a lot of room in the top nine, and I'm not sure Krebs would bump anyone out (or Pospisil for that matter)

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Sign or trade I think

Trade him back to Colorado,

To COL
Rantanen

To CAR
Mittelstadt
2025 2nd (from Car)

Carolina isn't going to get more than that at the deadline from anyone else. That would be pretty interesting to watch

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Trade him back to Colorado,

To COL
Rantanen

To CAR
Mittelstadt
2025 2nd (from Car)

Carolina isn't going to get more than that at the deadline from anyone else. That would be pretty interesting to watch

He'd be a huge addition to any team at the deadline.

He'll fetch a big return.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

Interested to see what happens with Rantanen. If Carolina retains, someone can get Rantanen for 2.3 M. They aren’t close to signing him and Carolina would want something similar to what they traded for him.

Carolina needs pieces back for a playoff run. They are in their window now... Any team that needs them to retain salary is going after the same thing they are and won't be giving up now assets but likely blue chip future players, young players or high picks. My opinion of course.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

He'd be a huge addition to any team at the deadline.

He'll fetch a big return.

What about NJ,

To NJ
Rantanen (20% retained)


To CAR
Mercer
Nemec

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

What about NJ,

To NJ
Rantanen (20% retained)


To CAR
Mercer
Nemec

Crazy high price for a rental

[Tkachukwagon]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1893328823921320381

Further down in the thread but apparently Conroy gave Kuzmenko about 15 mins to decide whether he was going to waive his NTC or go on waivers.

Tough road trip coming up, team will look a lot different post deadline if Flames lose more than they win.

[Shazam]

Good.

[Inferno]

nm, already posted.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon

https://twitter.com/user/status/1893328823921320381

Further down in the thread but apparently Conroy gave Kuzmenko about 15 mins to decide whether he was going to waive his NTC or go on waivers.

Tough road trip coming up, team will look a lot different post deadline if Flames lose more than they win.

Team will look a lot different? Doubt it. Unless you’re thinking Vladar, Rooney, and/or Hanley.