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Old 02-21-2025, 12:24 PM   #9381
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Where would Krebs fit though after the Philly trade and Zary back.

If he's cheap I like the fourth line upgrade, but otherwise I think that ship has sailed.

Flames could dump Rooney pretty easily.
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Old 02-21-2025, 12:30 PM   #9382
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If Calgary doesn’t have the piece(s) to get Cozens, as has been stated, I think Mattias Samuelsson is the most natural fit. You can understand why Buffalo would trade Samuelsson. They have excess on the left side, and Samuelsson is regularly injured. You can understand why Calgary would acquire him. When Samuelsson is healthy, he’s a big, defensively solid, left-handed defenceman, who is 24 and signed at a palatable number. Also, I doubt the cost would be super high, because Samuelsson isn’t flashy and is oft-injured.
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If the Sabres are looking to dump that contract (5 more years), the Flames would be a good fit. They have the cap space and room on the left side.

Krebs & Samuelsson for ???
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Old 02-21-2025, 01:01 PM   #9384
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Krebs and/or Samuelsson do sound like buy low candidates (similar to Frost and Farabee) so it could be a fit. I don’t think they should cost much to acquire. Samuelsson has a bad contract. Krebs is a 4th line player at this point. How about this:

To Calgary:
Samuelsson + Krebs

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2025 3rd round pick
2025 5th round pick
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Old 02-21-2025, 01:07 PM   #9385
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I like it but Rooney is a pending UFA. Not sure he has any value. Poirier may have some upside. He's an unknown set back by his injury. 2 picks in this draft are nice but the draft is apparently not great.

I'm guessing that even offloading the contract Buffalo would want more.

This is a tough one to assign value to.
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Old 02-21-2025, 01:08 PM   #9386
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Dreger also speculated the Blues/Armstrong may try to capitalize on Binnington's renewed value
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If Calgary doesn’t have the piece(s) to get Cozens, as has been stated, I think Mattias Samuelsson is the most natural fit. You can understand why Buffalo would trade Samuelsson. They have excess on the left side, and Samuelsson is regularly injured. You can understand why Calgary would acquire him. When Samuelsson is healthy, he’s a big, defensively solid, left-handed defenceman, who is 24 and signed at a palatable number. Also, I doubt the cost would be super high, because Samuelsson isn’t flashy and is oft-injured.
If there are continuing conversations, it may still be for Cozens, not necessarily for what Calgary currently has, but what Calgary is able to get via other or 3 way trades.
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Dreger also speculated the Blues/Armstrong may try to capitalize on Binnington's renewed value
That would be smart.
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That would be smart.
Could see the oilers paying for him. The hype train would be all over this.
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If Calgary doesn’t have the piece(s) to get Cozens, as has been stated, I think Mattias Samuelsson is the most natural fit. You can understand why Buffalo would trade Samuelsson. They have excess on the left side, and Samuelsson is regularly injured. You can understand why Calgary would acquire him. When Samuelsson is healthy, he’s a big, defensively solid, left-handed defenceman, who is 24 and signed at a palatable number. Also, I doubt the cost would be super high, because Samuelsson isn’t flashy and is oft-injured.
Makes a lot of sense. That's getting Weegar his version of Bahl.
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Flames should not be moving any picks unless top line talent is coming back the other way.

Trading away picks for bottom pairing dman and healthy scratches is a Treliving special.
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Yeah, each pick sent out for a reclamation project is a cool prospect we wont get to oggle over in 3 years when the outlook is dark and interesting prospects are all we have to look forward to.
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Where would Krebs fit though after the Philly trade and Zary back.

If he's cheap I like the fourth line upgrade, but otherwise I think that ship has sailed.
He is actually a good young bottom 6 center that Buffalo might not value that highly, and I do think the Flames would have a lot of interest in Samuelsson.

Huberdeau-Kadri-Coronato
Zary - Frost - Sharangovich
Coleman - Backlund - Farabee
Pospisil - Krebs - Lomberg/Klapka

Bahl - Andersson
Samuelsson - Weegar
Bean - Pachal
Solovyov

If Krebs is the sweetener for taking on the Samuelsson contract then that would be nice.
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I hope the Flames are heavy in on offering Marner a contract if he makes it to UFA
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Old 02-21-2025, 01:46 PM   #9395
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He is actually a good young bottom 6 center that Buffalo might not value that highly, and I do think the Flames would have a lot of interest in Samuelsson.

Huberdeau-Kadri-Coronato
Zary - Frost - Sharangovich
Coleman - Backlund - Farabee
Pospisil - Krebs - Lomberg/Klapka

Bahl - Andersson
Samuelsson - Weegar
Bean - Pachal
Solovyov

If Krebs is the sweetener for taking on the Samuelsson contract then that would be nice.
I would hope the sweetner for taking on an oft injured 10-point player would be better than another 15-point 4th liner.
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I would hope the sweetner for taking on an oft injured 10-point player would be better than another 15-point 4th liner.
Especially with 6 years left on his $4.2M contract.
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Old 02-21-2025, 02:04 PM   #9397
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I would hope the sweetner for taking on an oft injured 10-point player would be better than another 15-point 4th liner.
People scoffed at the idea that Bahl was a good pick up too.

Samuelsson only turns 25 in a month, and is a 6'4", 225 lb dman that has historically played the toughest minutes on a bad team.

Those guys always are undervalued.

With a rising cap his $4.3M salary for 5 more years is not prohibitive at all even if it's just a 3rd pairing role, and gives a piece that can help the young RH shots like Parekh, Brzstewicz, etc as they join the team.

Him and Bahl would give you two reliable, big dmen on the LH side that can help the younger guys adjust. And both only turn 25 this year.

Would people give Bahl 5 x $4.3M right now - if the answer is yes then there should be no issue trading for Samuelsson.

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People scoffed at the idea that Bahl was a good pick up too.

Samuelsson is a 6'4", 225 dman that has historically played the toughest minutes on a bad team.

Those guys always are undervalued.

With a rising cap his $4.3M salary for 5 years is not prohibitive at all, and gives a piece that can help young guys like Parekh, Brzstewicz, etc as they join the team.
That's a trade for trade's sake. It moves the needle a negligible amount.

Fix the 4th line after you have a legit 1st line.

This team has waaaaay bigger problems than Rooney's spot. And if we don't already have that guy in the system (Kerins) then we should fire the entire scouting staff.

#### teams stay ####ty when they tweak the 4th line instead of addressing the real need.
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He fits. 24 yrs old. 4LC in Buffalo. Would be an upgrade here? Have to think so without diving in. Don't think the Cozens return rumours apply here (young C back, not a futures deal) but we'll see.
The problem is you are going to pay a decent price for a guy that at best is your future 3rd line C. I am not opposed to Krebs if they move him for a song but I can't see that happening.
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I hope the Flames are heavy in on offering Marner a contract if he makes it to UFA
Great player but that money is better spent on a C.
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