Breaking: Biden will not seek re-election

[Johnny Makarov]

...yeah because no one lies in anonymous polls! lol

The UCP think I'm a lesbian with 2 doctorates and 12 kids.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Its like the "Trump with record support from Black voters" line

Yeah he got 17% instead of 15% lol

I have no idea where those numbers are from, but 34.4 million eligible black voters x 65% turnout x 2 percentage points is over 400,000 people.

That's a lol?

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

...yeah because no one lies in anonymous polls! lol

The UCP think I'm a lesbian with 2 doctorates and 12 kids.

Are you?

[Itse]

Harris is such a terrible candidate.

Not likable, but but also not credible doing an Iron Lady impersonation.

As a black woman, unpalatable to conservatives, but too conservative for liberals.

She's also establishment in the sense that she's part of the previous administration (which is mostly bad because it's not a popular administration) but she's also not establishment in the sense that she feel like a safe and familiar choice to most people. (Partly that's just her being female and black, again.)

Democrats really went for the hard mode here.

That said, the right VP could really help her.

Not Buttigieg, someone who is palatable to most people.

[PsYcNeT]

Honestly I'm just really interested to see what the swing voter polls look like.

Anyone who was already voting Dem isn't going to vote Trump because of Harris being the ticket; how do people who were leaning Trump before feel about it?

[GGG]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Honestly I'm just really interested to see what the swing voter polls look like.

Anyone who was already voting Dem isn't going to vote Trump because of Harris being the ticket; how do people who were leaning Trump before feel about it?

It’s more about being willing to go vote. We are talking the difference being 1/100 people choosing not to vote who voted last time or vice versa for each side.

So the change in enthusiasm among decided voters becomes critical.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Locke

Is it too late to Pardon Hitler?

Because nobody would see that coming.

You mean they would not see that coming.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Itse

Harris is such a terrible candidate.

Not likable, but but also not credible doing an Iron Lady impersonation.

As a black woman, unpalatable to conservatives, but too conservative for liberals.

She's also establishment in the sense that she's part of the previous administration (which is mostly bad because it's not a popular administration) but she's also not establishment in the sense that she feel like a safe and familiar choice to most people. (Partly that's just her being female and black, again.)

Democrats really went for the hard mode here.

That said, the right VP could really help her.

Not Buttigieg, someone who is palatable to most people.

She has far higher name recognition than any of the other likely candidates. This election will be decided by a small sliver of the electorate - mostly low-engagement swing voters. Name recognition matters.

[PsYcNeT]

You can definitely tell Trump's mind is going, referring to her as "Laughing Kamala" when "Cackling Kamala" is right there.

Leagues away from "Meatball Ron"

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

how do people who were leaning Trump before feel about it?

Likely not much different, other than those who were honestly basing their decision on Biden's age and faculties rather than using it as an excuse to vote for an authoritarian narcissist sex offender.

It's a bit puzzling to me that Harris didn't have a speech ready and get in front of cameras, from the white house, behind the seal of the VP, to give that speech so that she could get free media on all cable networks for the past 24 hours and the next few days rather than all of the speculation and "analysis" they've been showing. The flip side is that if she doesn't nail that speech then this thing is effectively over, but you kinda have to shoot your shot at this point, no?

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Itse

Harris is such a terrible candidate.

Not likable, but but also not credible doing an Iron Lady impersonation.

As a black woman, unpalatable to conservatives, but too conservative for liberals.

She's also establishment in the sense that she's part of the previous administration (which is mostly bad because it's not a popular administration) but she's also not establishment in the sense that she feel like a safe and familiar choice to most people. (Partly that's just her being female and black, again.)

Democrats really went for the hard mode here.

That said, the right VP could really help her.

Not Buttigieg, someone who is palatable to most people.

I honestly think people would say that about pretty much any candidate. Too conservative, not conservative enough. Too black, too white. Too Californian, not Midwest enough. Too progressive, not progressive enough. Smiles too much, doesn't smile enough. Blablabla.

Kamala wouldn't be my first choice in an "open" field either, but she's miles better than a geriatric Biden and obviously miles, miles better than her orange opponent. That's good enough for me.

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

I don’t really care. They could nominate an inanimate carbon rod and I would vote for it over Trump.

In rod we trust.

Team it with Mark Kelly and get two Space Exploration heroes on the ticket.

Unites the Star Wars/Star Trek feuding cabals and jumps the democrats to warp speed. No tractor beam can pull them down. Almost forgot the third piece of the venn diagram...Simpsons fans.

What can't that inanimate carbon rod do?

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Likely not much different, other than those who were honestly basing their decision on Biden's age and faculties rather than using it as an excuse to vote for an authoritarian narcissist sex offender.

It's a bit puzzling to me that Harris didn't have a speech ready and get in front of cameras, from the white house, behind the seal of the VP, to give that speech so that she could get free media on all cable networks for the past 24 hours and the next few days rather than all of the speculation and "analysis" they've been showing. The flip side is that if she doesn't nail that speech then this thing is effectively over, but you kinda have to shoot your shot at this point, no?

Because she's not officially anything yet? not until the convention

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Izzle

This thread seems pessimistic that Harris is the nominee. But the near $50m in political donations to ActBlue suggest a renewed enthusiasm for the Dems.

For me I just really don't think the US is ready to elect a black woman president and I think that will affect her share of the votes that actually matter.
Butterfly is on a ECHL goalies are better than NHL goalies level rant here.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Because she's not officially anything yet? not until the convention

Yeah, she could still lose the nomination but I am not sure who would take it now that Newsom has passed

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by devo22

I honestly think people would say that about pretty much any candidate. Too conservative, not conservative enough. Too black, too white. Too Californian, not Midwest enough. Too progressive, not progressive enough. Smiles too much, doesn't smile enough. Blablabla.

Kamala wouldn't be my first choice in an "open" field either, but she's miles better than a geriatric Biden and obviously miles, miles better than her orange opponent. That's good enough for me.

Is that a democratic/liberal voter mindset? Too this, too that? Nobody cares if conservative candidates are any of those things. Trump really could have picked anyone for VP and it would have been great.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Is that a democratic/liberal voter mindset? Too this, too that? Nobody cares if conservative candidates are any of those things. Trump really could have picked anyone for VP and it would have been great.

That is because the GOP mainly chooses between two white men and the deciding factor is how much they want to restrict women's/LGBT rights and how much money they want to hand to the wealthy.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Because she's not officially anything yet? not until the convention

She's officially the vice president and can absolutely do a speech that says she intends to win the nomination and lead the Democrats to victory etc etc.

[The Yen Man]

As unlikeable as Harris is in the polls, this at least gives Dem voters a sense of relief that the person they're voting in is of sound enough mind to handle the job. Lol, what a low bar to clear for US politics these days.

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by butterfly

You’re just wrong. In fact, a higher percentage of people with college degrees voted for him in 2020 than 2016. It’s better to know the facts and deal with reality than to stick your head in the sand and become Panther Fan.

Not that he needs my help but maybe back off the drive bys of Cali. He is a long time respected poster with many thoughtful posts over the years.

You are a closet Oiler fan and Trump supporter.