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			I thought trading injured players was ok as long as the receiving team is ok with the medical?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-20-2024, 01:16 PM
			
			
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				The most confusing part about this is that Flames want to buy a goalie lol 
			
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The only way it makes sense to me is if Vladar goes the other way in that trade and we also trade Markstrom somewhere else. Then we roll with our new goalie and Wolf next year.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-20-2024, 01:17 PM
			
			
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				I'm guessing you mean IR, not waivers? 
			
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Yep, thanks for catching that.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-20-2024, 01:18 PM
			
			
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				The only way it makes sense to me is if Vladar goes the other way in that trade and we also trade Markstrom somewhere else. Then we roll with our new goalie and Wolf next year. 
			
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 For sure. I just assumed Vladar would be #1A with Markstrom gone. 
 
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				I thought trading injured players was ok  as long as the receiving team is ok with the medical? 
			
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It is
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-20-2024, 01:22 PM
			
			
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			.922 .892 .913 save % last 3 seasons for Markstrom. 
 
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			02-20-2024, 01:42 PM
			
			
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				I'm not going to name names, but I personally know a goalie who NJD is after but they're on his no trade list. Could help the Flames send Markstrom there. Apparently, CGY is interested in this same goalie. 
			
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Not me just sitting here looking at what goalies have no trade clauses...
 https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/a...ts-season=2024
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-20-2024, 01:43 PM
			
			
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				How many of you believe Markstrom will be gone before trade deadline? 
			
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Definitely might happen.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-20-2024, 01:45 PM
			
			
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Presumably Gibson or Jarry?
 
Not sure why we would really be interested in either fwiw, but I certainly hope we're not interested in any other name on that list.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-20-2024, 01:47 PM
			
			
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				Presumably Gibson or Jarry? 
 
Not sure why we would really be interested in either fwiw, but I certainly hope we're not interested in any other name on that list. 
			
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Jarry seems to be the one that would make the most sense from an age / contract perspective.
 
Maybe Ullmark...is that why Nonis has been watching Boston?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-20-2024, 01:49 PM
			
			
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				Jarry seems to be the one that would make the most sense from an age / contract perspective. 
 
Maybe Ullmark...is that why Nonis has been watching Boston? 
			
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Just keep Markstrom then.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-20-2024, 01:50 PM
			
			
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			What a way to #### block Wolf. Get rid of the vet in front of him only to add another vet in front of him
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-20-2024, 01:50 PM
			
			
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				Jarry seems to be the one that would make the most sense from an age / contract perspective. 
 
Maybe Ullmark...is that why Nonis has been watching Boston? 
			
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maybe Vlader goes back to Boston? Ullmark with one more year on his deal and could be the safety net for Wolf.
 
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			02-20-2024, 01:51 PM
			
			
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				Are folks thinking we retain because NJ is capped out or because Markstrom is overpaid? 
			
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The Devils will have a cap crunch two years from now, that's why they are looking for retention. 
 
I don't feel that the cap is an issue this year or next year. The only guys who really need deals next season are Mercer who could be bridged and Toffoli who needs to decide if he wants to win or go after teh money. 
 
Markstrom 25% retained for Holtz + 2nd is nutso on the low side.
 
Markstrom ??% retained for Holtz + Sigenthaler + 1st + 2nd is equally nutso the other way. If that deal was on the table there had to be another piece going to Jersey, those two reported deals are too far apart. 
 
Hopefully the deal is somewhere in the middle with the Flames eating ~$2M of his salary.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-20-2024, 01:54 PM
			
			
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			To be clear I'm less intrigued by the Flames interest in this goalie, but more interesting in what alternative options the Devils might have to Markstrom.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-20-2024, 01:56 PM
			
			
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				Markstrom 25% retained for Holtz + 2nd is nutso on the low side. 
			
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Pardon??
 
I'd be ecstatic with that return.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-20-2024, 01:58 PM
			
			
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				To be clear I'm less intrigued by the Flames interest in this goalie, but more interesting in what alternative options the Devils might have to Markstrom. 
			
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Do you see the Bruins moving a goalie at the TDL? 
 
I could see them doing something after the season, but don't see a compelling reason why the Bruins would do something now unless the Devils overpay.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-20-2024, 01:58 PM
			
			
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				The Devils will have a cap crunch two years from now, that's why they are looking for retention 
			
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I don't really see this cap crunch two years from now.  You mean Luke Hughes?  I could be missing what you mean.  
 
Anyway, I don't see a million or two of Markstrom being retained as being a fulcrum point for whether they can stay under the cap or not.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-20-2024, 01:58 PM
			
			
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				What a way to #### block Wolf. Get rid of the vet in front of him only to add another vet in front of him 
			
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One of those vets is considerably easier to leap frog than the other. Wolf is a fantastic prospect but also hasn't shown anything that would make him deserving of being gifted the #1 spot. He's going to have to outplay some competition no matter what. If can't outplay Vladar and Vanacek, he's probably not ready to be the #1 goalie.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-20-2024, 02:00 PM
			
			
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I'd be ecstatic with that return. 
			
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People have been whipped into a frenzy of expectations. Rewind 5 months and everyone here would be doing backflips at that potential return. Short memories!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-20-2024, 02:00 PM
			
			
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				I'm not going to name names, but I personally know a goalie who NJD is after but they're on his no trade list. Could help the Flames send Markstrom there. Apparently, CGY is interested in this same goalie. 
			
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List of goalies with NTC 
Gibson ANA 
Ullmark BOS  
Andersen CAR  
Mrazek CHI  
Merzlikins CLB  
Reimer DET  
Cambbell EDM (LOL) No 
Talbot LAK  
Allen MTL 
Varlomov NYI 
Shesterkin NYR  
Quick NYR  
Petersen PHI 
Jarry PIT 
Grubauer SEA  
Driedger SEA  
Binnington STL 
Murray TML  
Lehner VGK  
Hill VGK  
Kuemper WSH
 
Based on who would fit both CGY and NJD I'd say it boils down to Allen, Quick, Driedger, Mrazek.
 
Quick plays a flashy game but has been around the block and seems like could be a decent mentor to Wolf and also give Jersey a shot in the arm for the year. 
 
Too much free time on CapFriendly. Make of it what you will. Personally Don't see Conroy spending  assets to acquire a goalie with lots of term with Wolf/Vladar and other team needs.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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