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Old 01-07-2019, 12:13 PM   #6381
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Not sure if this is news, but it made me laugh:

https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/16...ading-hamilton

Looks like Dougie could be on the move again.
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Old 01-07-2019, 12:19 PM   #6382
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Not sure if this is news, but it made me laugh:

https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/16...ading-hamilton

Looks like Dougie could be on the move again.
not enough museums in Raleigh...

i kid, i kid...

but it is weird if they do move him... that's a lot of teams to have moved on from him, for a guy as talented as he is
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I think Hamilton is the odd man out simply because Carolina needs a top-six forward and they have too many RHD. Hamilton may be the best chance at bringing in the bacon on that front.

I don't think it's necessarily Dougie's fault; probably just circumstance in the business of hockey.
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Old 01-07-2019, 12:27 PM   #6384
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Athletic top 20 players that could be on the move. Craig Custance. Good write up for each player if you have a subscription. Comments right now it is definitely a buyers market which is great news for us.

1. Panarin
2. Duchene
3. Stone
4. Hayes
5. Hamilton
6. Simmonds
7. Krieder
8. Schenn
9. Muzzin
10. Nyquist
11. Puljujarvi
12. Liljegren
13. Ferland
14. Zuccarello
15. Niederieter
16. Howard
17. Burakavaky
18. Daley
19. Martinez
20. Jensen


A few players on that list would look good in Flames jersey’s

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Old 01-07-2019, 12:37 PM   #6385
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Frolik for Ferland?
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Old 01-07-2019, 12:39 PM   #6386
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Puljujarvi - LOLOL. Funny to see both Ferland and Hamilton there.

The rest of the list is quite attractive, but the ask for most will be unreasonable, especially since most are UFAs. Exceptions: Kreider, Hamilton, Muzzin, Liljegren, Nino, Daley, Martinez. And of those, I'm only interested in a couple for the Flames.
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Old 01-07-2019, 12:40 PM   #6387
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I think Hamilton is the odd man out simply because Carolina needs a top-six forward and they have too many RHD. Hamilton may be the best chance at bringing in the bacon on that front.

I don't think it's necessarily Dougie's fault; probably just circumstance in the business of hockey.
Which makes the trade all the more special, considering we snagged Lindholm and Buffalo grabbed Skinner.

Carolina... doomed.

I'm really interested in hearing about this guy:

17. Burakavaky
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Old 01-07-2019, 12:45 PM   #6388
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6. Simmonds
7. Krieder
8. Simmonds

So nice he's posted twice?
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Old 01-07-2019, 12:50 PM   #6389
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Simmonds has not been good in Philly this year. He is the Philly whipping boy right now and their fans constantly make comments about how they'll never get a 1st for him at the deadline.
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6. Simmonds
7. Krieder
8. Simmonds

So nice he's posted twice?
Thanks. Schenn was 8
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I would not give up a 1st for Simmonds, and I assume that's the asking price.
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Ignoring the cap implications, which make this idea a rather non-starter for Carolina, I doubt it would be plausible. It seems (to me), Treliving doesn't keep players that take him to arbitration. Most players that do it are moved at some point. Could be just a coincidence, of course.
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Old 01-07-2019, 12:53 PM   #6393
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Simmonds has not been good in Philly this year. He is the Philly whipping boy right now and their fans constantly make comments about how they'll never get a 1st for him at the deadline.
Good. Means he will be super motivated as a rental in a contract year

And cheap
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Ignoring the cap implications, which make this idea a rather non-starter for Carolina, I doubt it would be plausible. It seems (to me), Treliving doesn't keep players that take him to arbitration. Most players that do it are moved at some point. Could be just a coincidence, of course.
Carolina has the most cap space in the league. The floor is more of an issue for them.

Unless you mean salary implications
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...Unless you mean salary implications
Yes.
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I think Hamilton is the odd man out simply because Carolina needs a top-six forward and they have too many RHD. Hamilton may be the best chance at bringing in the bacon on that front.

I don't think it's necessarily Dougie's fault; probably just circumstance in the business of hockey.
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"Dougie Hamilton is arguably the best defenseman in the NHL. At worst, he’s in a class with Drew Doughty, Victor Hedman, Erik Karlsson, Morgan Rielly, Kris Letang and Marc Giordano."

Maybe I just have selective memory, but I don't think any of us were saying Dougie was the "best defenseman in the NHL," and I didn't think anyone outside of the Flames thought that much of him either. Now the Leafs might acquire him after a very underwhelming first half, and he's suddenly a top 6 defenseman?
Toronto fans/media are crazy.
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"This wouldn’t just put the Leafs over the top, it would make them among the best teams ever assembled in the history of the NHL."
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Athletic top 20 players that could be on the move. Craig Custance. Good write up for each player if you have a subscription. Comments right now it is definitely a buyers market which is great news for us.

1. Panarin
2. Duchene
3. Stone
4. Hayes
5. Hamilton
6. Simmonds
7. Krieder
8. Schenn
9. Muzzin
10. Nyquist
11. Puljujarvi
12. Liljegren
13. Ferland
14. Zuccarello
15. Niederieter
16. Howard
17. Burakavaky
18. Daley
19. Martinez
20. Jensen


A few players on that list would look good in Flames jersey’s
How did Puljujarvi get on a list of "top" anything that also doesn't include the word "bust". I don't discount that he could be traded but what team is on the phone right now saying we need to get him before the deadline? He will be part of a "my underachieving prospect for your underachieving prospect" or part of a bigger deal but seems totally misplaced on this list.
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Includes this gem:

"This wouldn’t just put the Leafs over the top, it would make them among the best teams ever assembled in the history of the NHL."
I think the Leafs should add Hamilton, but even if they got him without subtracting from their roster (highly unlikely) I still don’t think that even makes them the best team in their division.
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I don’t like having to include the 1st to get Eberle and Lehner. A 1st for a 2nd/3rd line/2nd pp and a guy who would be our backup doesn’t make sense.
On this topic of balking over trading a 1st - what about if it was a conditional 2nd that becomes a 1st if say, the Flames make the Conference Final? Is that worth it?

It looks like if we make the playoffs this year the Isles (from the complicated Hamonic trade) don't get our 2nd. Instead, why not trade it to them with the bonus possibility of it becoming a 1st? Kind of like the Russell trade.
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