2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

I do wonder if this coaching staff could do something with Eberle. Put him in a winning environment and show him video of Johnny skating to back-check yet still putting up points.

Oiler draft picks around that time were overhyped but have turned into reliable NHLers (Gagner, Cogliano) in better surroundings. Could be a nice upside scenario in exchange for Frolik.

[Shazam]

Make sure he gets cleaned Silkwood style so that all the Oilers stink is off him.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Toonage

I'd rather a left handed shot for the 3L to work with Neal but who knows who they would be or if it would work.

Flames have dealt with the Islanders but not with Lou at the helm. Not sure that's a good trade partner

I actually have been thinking about Marcus Johansson for some time.

He would be one of the cheaper rentals at the deadline if the Devils decide to move on.

Can play all 3 forward positions.

He is a good passer with an underrated 2 way game. Decent on the PP.

The main concerns are if his injuries (i.e. concussions) are behind him and he doesn't play a physical game.

[JJolg]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Eberle being a pure rental (he won't re-sign here, nor would I want him to) and NYI being a playoff team, my thoughts are that Frolik has to be involved to replace Eberle on their roster. I'm happy to include Lazar but that's about it.

Usual caveat about +/- but Eberle's -10 is way out of whack with the rest of that team. I suspect he's an advanced stats black hole and as such, neither Treliving or Peters would want him much.

Why wouldn't he want to sign where he lives?

[Roof-Daddy]

I could definitely see a deal being made where Eberle and Frolik are the key pieces exchanged.

Frolik and Lazar for Eberle maybe?

[Vinny01]

I was pumping the Frolik for Eberle deal last week. I like it because it clears the Frolik cap hit and would give the Flames an offensive right shot for the second PP unit. Also it would be awesome for Eberle to put up some points for the Flames while we are having a great season and the Oil are spinning their tires.

I also think Frolik fits a Trotz coached team perfectly.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

He is a good passer with an underrated 2 way game. Decent on the PP.

A player that can conceivably improve the 3L and PP2?

Exactly what they should be looking at.

[Oling_Roachinen]

The Islanders are two points back from second and actually have the second highest point-percentage in the Metro.

The Islanders aren't sellers. If they are looking at moving Eberle it's because the kids have caused a log jam. If that's the case, the last thing they want back is a downgrade on forward with additional term on the contract. Frolik won't be the centerpeice in a deal for him, could maybe be a throwin though.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

I actually have been thinking about Marcus Johansson for some time.

He would be one of the cheaper rentals at the deadline if the Devils decide to move on.

Can play all 3 forward positions.

He is a good passer with an underrated 2 way game. Decent on the PP.

The main concerns are if his injuries (i.e. concussions) are behind him and he doesn't play a physical game.

Marcus Johansson is one of my favourite players in the NHL. If the Flames ever got him, I will definitely buy his jersey right away.

[Poe969]

If the Flames upgrade at center where would that leave Janko? You'd have Monahan, a #2, Backlund and Ryan so where would he fit? Would they keep him as a winger or would he be a huge trade chip for the team? The kid has skill and is a beast on the pk so is the answer to go after a guy like Hayes or Duchene and move janko? If the Flames want a good player, either center or goalie, they'll have to give up quality. No team is going to give them anything for free, so what is their best trade chip?

[Knut]

Frolik for Eberle. OK

Clears space for next year for Tkachuk and BSD plus adds some pop up front.

[Gaskal]

Would do an Eberle deal just to see Oiler fans explode.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

The Islanders are two points back from second and actually have the second highest point-percentage in the Metro.

The Islanders aren't sellers. If they are looking at moving Eberle it's because the kids have caused a log jam. If that's the case, the last thing they want back is a downgrade on forward with additional term on the contract. Frolik won't be the centerpeice in a deal for him, could maybe be a throwin though.

Eberle has less goals than Frolik this season despite playing 10 more games. He is not fitting in with Trotz and Frolik seems like a forward that Trotz would covet. Not as far off as you think

[Ozy_Flame]

Johansson has been on IR since before Christmas with an upper-body injury; no timeline on his return.

Getting him and Ben Lovejoy as depth rentals for the playoffs (Calgary has been rumored to be looking for a 3rd pairing D) wouldn't be the worst plan. Both are expiring UFA's.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

Would do an Eberle deal just to see Oiler fans explode.

I'd do it, and if he becomes a game breaker in the playoffs, the amount of salt from up north would be delicious. If it doesn't work out, then no harm, no foul. He's UFA anyways, and Frolik was always expendable. Clears some cap room to get Chucky signed next year. Win win IMO.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Envitro

I've been hearing more and more rumblings of Eberle to CGY. No idea what the deal structure looks like.

Could be pure speculation, and I believe it has been mentioned on here maybe one or twice. It's an interesting thought. Does he have anything left? Probably. Would he be a good depth addition before the deadline? I think so.

To NYI: 2019 1st round pick, Michael Frolik
To CGY: Jordan Eberle (50% retained), Robin Lehner

This would give an offensively minded winger to play with Jankowski and Neal, and give us a solid back-up or 1/1A option while maintaining Smith as added depth and keep him around the team (wouldn't be surprised if the team wants to keep him around).

The requirement for that type of asset expenditure would have to be that both Eberle and Lehner get extended - Tree would have to work some magic. Lehner could be our answer going forward with Rittich.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Bennett
Neal - Jankowski - Eberle
AHL - Ryan - Hathaway

Giordano - Brodie
Hanifin - Hamonic
Kylington - Andersson
Prout

Rittich
Lehner
Smith

[Roof-Daddy]

No offense but if you get Eberle you put him on Chucky and Backs right wing. That's been the problem with that line, offensive inconsistency. So you add an offensive player and see if it clicks. Frolik, Neal, Czarnik and Bennett. None of them have helped that line hit the score sheet often enough.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

No offense but if you get Eberle you put him on Chucky and Backs right wing. That's been the problem with that line, offensive inconsistency. So you add an offensive player and see if it clicks. Frolik, Neal, Czarnik and Bennett. None of them have helped that line hit the score sheet often enough.

I think it probably becomes a match-up thing. If we're using Backs' line in a pure shutdown role, you use Bennett (guys d-game is developing nicely) and then you use Neal - Jankowski - Eberle as a 3rd line that can expose the lack of depth on the other team and give them offensive zone starts.

Eberle could also replace Ryan on PP2 and QB that back from the brink of oblivion.

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[Vinny01]

I don’t like having to include the 1st to get Eberle and Lehner. A 1st for a 2nd/3rd line/2nd pp and a guy who would be our backup doesn’t make sense.

If we would be adding to Frolik to get Eberle I don’t think the cost would be more than a 3rd. Not that different than the Strome for Spooner trade which would be swapping under performing players where both teams have new coaches this year. I don’t see the Islanders having a problem with the 4.3M cap and $3M in cash owed to Frolik next year.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by JJolg

Why wouldn't he want to sign where he lives?

Because the Flames can't/won't pay him anything like what he's going to want, given they need to make a couple key internal signings (expecially Tkachuk, but also Rittich and Bennett) plsu a couple more the following year (decisions on Hamonic and Brodie, plus Jankowski, Rasmus and Oliver are RFAs) and also they will seek another goalie. They potentially save money than previoulsy thought on the latter if they only need a backup, but I think it will be a more expensive backup than normal. They might be looking at a bigger name though.