You can't go wrong with an 80's Jets player as coach:
Carlyle: 20 years coaching resume. One Stanley Cup, led ANaheim and Toronto to their best records in years
MacLean: Coach of the Year for Senators, and did well as an Assistant with the Ducks.
Hawerchuk: Has taken a bottom dwelling Barrie Colts team, and nearly led them to the OHL Championship, and perennial contender. Has recently been sought after by NHL clubs.
with that rivalry you think he'd do that? that would be like the flames coach winning a couple cups for you then going to coach the grease
What are his options? Calgary, Ottawa and Anaheim. Of those three teams, the only one that might win the Cup next year is Anaheim.
Of the remaining NHL teams still playing (Pens/Caps/Isles/Lightning/Blues/Stars/Predators/Sharks) how many might consider gassing their coach? I'd think maybe St. Louis but probably not if they win this round.
I like the idea of interviewing coaches from our closest rivals. It would be interesting to see where they see the Flames and what they identify the strengths and weaknesses are.
And I hope that after all that, that Daryl Sutter gets the job.
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I'd be surprised if a coach is named in the next couple weeks. We're probably look at June. Treliving is going to want to interview a bunch of guys, including guys with no NHL head coaching experience. I doubt Boudreau was ever really a factor.
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So much love for Boudreau here. I swear there was an article earlier this year talking about how the Ducks didn't really have a real system hich left me with the impression that Boudreau really wasn't doing much "coaching". His rregular season records are impressive but look at those teams he coached. Wasn't there also a lot of "unsustainable" play from the Ducks last year as well? They weren't exactly analytics darlings either, they just had a great roster.
Boudreau has never strikes me as that top tier coach in that Babcock, Sutter, Quenneville group. I dont think he's even at the same tier as guys like Hitchcock, Laviolette, Tippet, and Vigneault.
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You can't go wrong with an 80's Jets player as coach:
Carlyle: 20 years coaching resume. One Stanley Cup, led ANaheim and Toronto to their best records in years
MacLean: Coach of the Year for Senators, and did well as an Assistant with the Ducks.
Hawerchuk: Has taken a bottom dwelling Barrie Colts team, and nearly led them to the OHL Championship, and perennial contender. Has recently been sought after by NHL clubs.
Well, I think it's safe a safe assumption that Sutter won't come back to coach the Flames. With his comments that he wants to wait how the Kings do in FA and wants to win another cup, the Flames are a much longer shot than L.A so we won't make his short list.
With Boudreau out, Maybe they wait for the playoffs to end. Get a chance to chat up Muller or others.
While it looks that way right now, we can also look at it another way. Perhaps the Kings have reached the point where they just plateaued again, and with their big contracts and salary cap issues, are about to start trending down. That is what people thought of them after last year (some people at least), and though they appeared to be 'back in form', they very well may be a team that is going to keep regressing. In that case, a younger team like Calgary may be a preferred landing spot for a coach.
Well, at least that is one way to look at it. It just depends on where you view LA on a timeline. They may indeed have a few more cups in them, or last season was the 'beginning of the end' so to speak.
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So much love for Boudreau here. I swear there was an article earlier this year talking about how the Ducks didn't really have a real system hich left me with the impression that Boudreau really wasn't doing much "coaching". His rregular season records are impressive but look at those teams he coached. Wasn't there also a lot of "unsustainable" play from the Ducks last year as well? They weren't exactly analytics darlings either, they just had a great roster.
Boudreau has never strikes me as that top tier coach in that Babcock, Sutter, Quenneville group. I dont think he's even at the same tier as guys like Hitchcock, Laviolette, Tippet, and Vigneault.
I agree with Boudreau getting over-hyped lately. Yes, he has the record for quickest wins, etc. I remember him look rather incompetent in Washington, and that team really fell apart at the seams with him there. Trotz did a heck of a job - though they did turn over a significant portion of the roster. That may also have been a bit Trotz-driven, however, as I am sure he wasn't shy about asking for certain types of players.
Boudreau also underwhelmed in Anaheim I thought this past season. Was it really him spearheading the drastic 180 on the season, or was that Paul MacLean? I would personally have been 'fine' with Boudreau taking over - I really can't say he is terrible, or he is great. I would have kept an open mind and tried to look on the positive side. I just really feel he is over-hyped at the moment for some reason as well.
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Flames GM Brad Treliving remains very open minded in terms of coaching candidates. Will intensify search process on Monday.
Hawerchuk is a really interesting choice. Most great players do not transition to great coaches. Dale might be an exception. Ekblad, Andersoon and Mangiapane all seem to have turned out pretty well under his tutelage. I remember some articles how Dale kept Mangipane believing in himself.
Hawerchuk family into show jumping (Spruce Meadows perhaps). Youngest son Ben draft eligible OHLer age 18 (nest emptying).
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Coaching record:
Team Year Regular season Post season
G W L OTL Pts Finish Result
Barrie Colts 2010–11 68 15 49 4 34 5th Central Missed playoffs
Barrie Colts 2011–12 68 40 23 3 83 2nd Central Lost 2nd round
Barrie Colts 2012–13 68 44 20 4 92 1st Central Lost in final round
Barrie Colts 2013-14 68 37 28 3 77 2nd Central Lost in 2nd round
Barrie Colts 2014-15 68 41 24 3 85 1st Central Lost in 2nd round
Barrie Colts 2015-16 68 43 22 0 89 1st Central Lost in 3rd round
In a poll of NHL general managers during the mid-1980s asking them to select the player they would start a franchise with, Hawerchuk was voted third behind only Wayne Gretzky and Paul Coffey. He retired with 518 goals, 891 assists and 1,409 points, placing him 18th on the career NHL points list. He was inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 2001.
“I learned as a player that you are going to go through ups and downs not only during a season, but in a practice and certainly in a game,” the 51-year-old Hawerchuk said. “You have to stay positive. You have to stay confident in the process. You have to have a feel for your club and what you’re doing is the right thing.”
“I really liked playing for Dale,” said one of his former players, Tanner Pearson, who won a Stanley Cup in Los Angeles last spring. “You had to respect the respect he had for the game. He definitely coaches with the competitiveness as when he played.
“He also thinks the game at such a high level that he goes sometimes with his gut and it works out. And for an offensive player he's able to teach you a bunch of little skills which can help.”
Hawerchuk’s teaching skills were in full view in the NHL on a Tuesday night in December. Pearson scored the game-winner in the Kings 2-0 win at home against Boston. A couple hours earlier, another Hawerchuk protégé in rookie defenceman Aaron Ekblad scored the game-winner for Florida in Detroit.
“You’re proud and you’re happy for them,” Hawerchuk said. “They’ve put the work in. I don’t worry about them.”
This is something he learned from all of his coaches, from Doug Carpenter in junior to his NHL coaches Tom Watt, Barry Long, Dan Maloney, Bob Murdoch, Rick Dudley, John Muckler, Mike Keenan and Terry Murray.
“I’ve tried to take something from everyone,” Hawerchuk said. “When you hit junior, your coach starts to influence you so much.”
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Not that his credibility could drop much further but Eric Francis really looks like a grade A moron now. He flat out guaranteed Boudreau would be the Flames coach on more than one occasion this past week.
He also guaranteed that the Flames would win the draft lottery.
C'mon people!! The guy buys his own radio time on 960 and writes the promos that portray himself as controversial. He's just seeking attention, which seems to be good for his pocketbook.
I am absolutely terrified that Burke and Carlyle will lead our Flames down the same destructive path they lead the Leafs down...
The Leafs started falling apart well before Burke, the only real mistake Burke made in Toronto was the Kessel deal, he did a ton of good there and Carlyle squeezed more out of a bad team than he should have.
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Did Damien Cox just say Marc Crawford was a possible for Calgary!? GTFO.
edit: Just replayed it, they confirmed Crawford interviewed for OTT and stated that he may have "some interest" from Calgary. Also stated Crawford was ok with being an assistant.
Cox is an idiot.
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Has everyone suddenly decided to quit believing in BT? Seeing as how every other major move this organisation has made since he came on board has had almost zero media leaks my level of worry is nil.
Because Leafs, anyone associated with the Leafs automatically leaves Flames fans acting like complete morons because they have not gotten over the Gilmour and Phaneuf trades.
The Leafs started falling apart well before Burke, the only real mistake Burke made in Toronto was the Kessel deal, he did a ton of good there and Carlyle squeezed more out of a bad team than he should have.
Really? They have him 5 years to rebuild the team, but 4 years later they were worse than when they started despite being a cap team. I'm not a Burke hate and think he's done some good here, but let's call a spade a spade. He was awful in Toronto
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I think BT has proven to be intelligent and methodical in his decision making. My guess is that they will diligently prepare a list of potential fits and work their way through the interviews. I also think some on that list may be still coaching. Bob Boughner in SJ?
Either way, count me in the camp that isn't too worried about Carlyle or Crawford as head coach.
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I think the firing and Hamilton trade proved there isn't a pipeline to what the Flames are doing and thinking, so I don't get jumpy based on media suggestions. Most of them are baseless.
Anyone remember when Button interviewed Nolan years ago and then struck him from the list when he told all the media he interviewed in Calgary?
Treliving isn't a willy nilly guy. He wouldn't talk possession, get Burke talking possession and then hire Carlyle unless there was a strong indication that his past possession stats were circumstantial.
I do think the Flames are getting ready to build a "team" behind the bench, and not one man.
Hartley had a caddy and a first time coach; he was short on depth on the bench.
Wouldn't surprise me at all to see an announcement like Travis Green with Crawford as an assistant/associate.
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Gelinas, Pringle and Sigalet were all retained but were their roles ever defined? I think there could be a shuffle there as well, someone might end up at the farm as well.
Like Bingo said, it could be a 1st time coach with veteran assistants or I think it could go the other way as well with veteran like Sutter and assistants like Green etc.
