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Old 09-18-2012, 12:42 PM   #41
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I'm really not concerned about sucessive generations of Quebekers. Once again that problem solves itself. Demographically they are dying off so long as the PQ continues to badger any and all newcomers that don't speak French, and the people that do live there continue to experience a negative birth rate. They are shrinking into obscurity.
What makes you say that?
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:48 PM   #42
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What makes you say that?
I thought I explained it. Negative birth rate combined with lower immigration means that over time there will actually be less people living there. Taking into account that the rest of Canada has a population that's growing much faster, and it seems that Quebec will matter less and less in the big scheme of things.
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never mind... already answered
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:53 PM   #44
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I thought I explained it. Negative birth rate combined with lower immigration means that over time there will actually be less people living there. Taking into account that the rest of Canada has a population that's growing much faster, and it seems that Quebec will matter less and less in the big scheme of things.
If you did I missed it, thanks for the clarification.

"So we are hoping they all die off."

I know that is a simplistic tongue in cheek statement, but I don't believe the issue will die out, again this is a point of disagreement for us.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:53 PM   #45
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So no country have ever peacefully split up in modern times......right.

What i am suggesting is calling a bluff, drawing all parties to the table and starting a dialogue. It might be what is needed to wake up the rest of the populace.

If you want to discuss this we can, but try to dial down the rhetoric and personal attacks.
Name me a stable democratic nation that has expelled a large portion of its land and population, the majority of which have indicated a desire to remain a part of the larger nation.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:57 PM   #46
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Name me a stable democratic nation that has expelled a large portion of its land and population, the majority of which have indicated a desire to remain a part of the larger nation.
forget it.
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:52 PM   #47
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So there was no Canadian flag during the swearing in for the PQ's but they were pledging allegiance to the monarch?

Vive le Quebec obscur.
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Old 09-18-2012, 07:57 PM   #48
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So the solution to all of this is to simply ignore it and hope it goes away?
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:00 PM   #49
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Only Canada?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...?newsfeed=true

Barcelona was a sea of red and yellow Catalan flags as more than 1.5 million people brought the city to a standstill on Tuesday at a mass rally called to demand independence for the Spanish region.
I understand your point is other nations do this to, and what I said below isn't really anything to do with it, but....

Correct me if I am wrong, but from my 30min debrief on Barcelona (aka I know nothing), it is two different situations.

A) Barcelona has the money in Spain, not Madrid (not verified), and so a Barcelona separation actually comes with more teeth, as money = power. Quebec, doesn't have that advantage in Canada.


B) Barcelona's flag is tribute to the mass murder of locals by the Spanish (Madrid) government, and the oppression still runs deep. You can argue oppression of the french in Canada, but the similarities between the two are almost non-existent. French Canada was not oppressed but nearly any international standard.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:41 AM   #50
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Only if BC comes with... Screw being land locked.
We should annex BC.
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:16 AM   #51
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Name me a stable democratic nation that has expelled a large portion of its land and population, the majority of which have indicated a desire to remain a part of the larger nation.
There's a first time for everything. Let em go.
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We should annex BC.
Anschluss!
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http://www.calgarysun.com/2012/09/18...canadian-money

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Does this mean we can remove all the French from our cereal boxes and every other food product?
Last Christmas I bought a Blu Ray box set from Amazon.co.uk for the sole reason of wanting English-only packaging.

I still look at my Le Seigneur des Anneaux in disgust.

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