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Old 08-12-2022, 03:03 PM   #161
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Lucic is going nowhere
Boo this man.

If this lands you a 90 point 2C you do it every time.

Love me some Looch, but not when it's eating up 5.25 that can be used on top talent.
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Old 08-12-2022, 03:04 PM   #162
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My gut tells me Tre will pull the trigger but wont be Kadri and it will be someone totally off the radar but will improve our top 6 that needs to be addressed
Either way, I am very much for it.
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Old 08-12-2022, 03:05 PM   #163
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If Lucic is dealt and Kadri brought in are the Flames a better team than last year? Center depth and defensive depth would be the best they have been in recent memory. There really would be no spot for Monahan unless he shifted to the wing?


Huberdeau-Lindholm-Toffoli
Mangiapane-Kadri-Monahan
Pelletier-Backlund-Coleman
Lewis-Ruzicka-Rooney
If we traded Lucic and signed Kadri, I'd also like to see either:

Huberdeau-Lindholm-Mangiapane
Monahan-Kadri-Toffoli
Pelletier-Backlund-Coleman
Lewis-Ruzicka-Rooney

or

Huberdeau-Lindholm-Monahan
Mangiapane-Kadri-Toffoli
Pelletier-Backlund-Coleman
Lewis-Ruzicka-Rooney

I think the lines you have are good, but I really like Monahan on LW because he seems to naturally gravitate to that side of the ice, and after watching Mangiapane's highlights, almost all of his goals and plays start and end on the right side. Mangiapane just seems to play his best game on the right side. I like all three of Monahan, Toffoli, and Mangiapane as the top line RW with Eat Bread as my favorite option.

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Old 08-12-2022, 03:07 PM   #164
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So if I'm jumping to conclusions

- Flames ready to sign Kadri, need cap space
- Lucic has NTC, can't deal him direct to Arizona or other bottom feeders
- Lucic willing to go to Boston, Boston wiling to make deal, but can't be for no cap coming back
- Flames trade to Boston for equal cap in player or players that can be traded anywhere, even if for no return
- Cap space open, Kadri signs in Calgary
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My gut tells me Tre will pull the trigger but wont be Kadri and it will be someone totally off the radar but will improve our top 6 that needs to be addressed
Barzal trade and sign? Please Brad
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I wonder if Debrusk & Valimaki would be involved as a change of scenery for both
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Old 08-12-2022, 03:10 PM   #168
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Currently all teams are above the floor.
That doesn't mean they don't want to save cash. A team could acquire Looch, buy him out and then trade a player and their cap hit. Boom. They save $4 million dollars and potentially acquire a draft pick.
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Old 08-12-2022, 03:10 PM   #169
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This summer can certainly be classified as interesting times for Tre.
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Old 08-12-2022, 03:13 PM   #170
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So if I'm jumping to conclusions

- Flames ready to sign Kadri, need cap space
- Lucic has NTC, can't deal him direct to Arizona or other bottom feeders
- Lucic willing to go to Boston, Boston wiling to make deal, but can't be for no cap coming back
- Flames trade to Boston for equal cap in player or players that can be traded anywhere, even if for no return
- Cap space open, Kadri signs in Calgary

This… this makes a lot of sense in my mind
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Old 08-12-2022, 03:17 PM   #171
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This… this makes a lot of sense in my mind
Yeah, just putting the pieces together, I'm willing to bet this is how it goes down. Brad would have made the trade with Arizona or anyone else (and it would have likely been done awhile ago), but Lucic probably held firm on not going to certain teams, forcing Brad to reach out to somewhere he prefers.

But....he wants to add a top six scorer like Kadri, so he's not going to grab Bostons cap problem player for ours and call it a day, he's likely negotiating for a similar cap hit player without a no trade clause and will flip that guy very quickly to anyone who will take them.

My bet is Calgary ends up including a 3-5th round pick to get an easily trade-able player back at a similar cap hit.

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Old 08-12-2022, 03:17 PM   #172
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I wonder if Debrusk & Valimaki would be involved as a change of scenery for both

But I have no interest in DeBrusk just base on he is LW and he really doesn't address the team's need.
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Old 08-12-2022, 03:18 PM   #173
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So if I'm jumping to conclusions

- Flames ready to sign Kadri, need cap space
- Lucic has NTC, can't deal him direct to Arizona or other bottom feeders
- Lucic willing to go to Boston, Boston wiling to make deal, but can't be for no cap coming back
- Flames trade to Boston for equal cap in player or players that can be traded anywhere, even if for no return
- Cap space open, Kadri signs in Calgary
That would be quite the series of moves.

Treliving would potentially lock up Best GM before the season even starts.

Capturing the imagination of the sporting world every weekend must give one quite the rush.
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Old 08-12-2022, 03:22 PM   #174
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Wasn't the Lucic thing a joke on twitter when the Bruins signed Bergeron and Krejci saying 'Let's get the band back together'.
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Honestly it does feel like a joke. Tim Thomas coming back as well?
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How many times have it been said that the reason he didn't want to come to the Flames has nothing to do with the Flames or that he doesn't like Calgary? Why are people still bringing this up?
I'm not saying he's got something with Calgary or the Flames. I'm just saying he didn't want to be a Flames. Why would you want a player that doesn't want to be here in the first place? If Kadri wanted to be part of the Flames, he would've been here a few years ago.
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I'm not saying he's got something with Calgary or the Flames. I'm just saying he didn't want to be a Flames. Why would you want a player that doesn't want to be here in the first place? If Kadri wanted to be part of the Flames, he would've been here a few years ago.
Circumstances change. He wanted to prove himself in Toronto still. Context is important.
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I'm not saying he's got something with Calgary or the Flames. I'm just saying he didn't want to be a Flames. Why would you want a player that doesn't want to be here in the first place? If Kadri wanted to be part of the Flames, he would've been here a few years ago.
It's just not that cut and dry. Kadri said it wasn't about not wanting to be in Calgary but that it was about staying in Toronto.
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Liability to the team’s on ice success?

The dude literally just played a HUGE role on the best team in the league and eventual cup winner.

Really feels like you’re just basing your reputation on him based on his early days in Toronto.
He deliberately ran Binnington in the playoffs. I think the Blues had a pretty good chance of beating the Avs if Binnington wasn't hurt. Still think he's a dirty player on the ice and a liability that could lead to suspensions.
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I haven't read all nine pages, so apologies if this has already been shot down.


What about trading Lucic to Boston for futures and he retires as a Bruin? He got his bonus already and will only make 1 mil additionally this season. Flames get the salary off the books, Bruins not on the hook for his salary either. Any definitive word that Lucic wants to play this season?
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