2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

I do hope that this keeps them out of the trade market. If they make the playoffs great, if not, look to next year.

I've never bought into the idea that the Devils were going to be a big buyer this year unless it was a long term solution to their goaltending. I think a lot of people here were, pie in the sky, looking at the Devils system and salivating at the possibilities for moves. Ignoring the fact that A) Goalies never get big returns even when they're really good; and B) the Devils never had any reason to go all-in this year.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Reeves says Leafs are abusing IR and he has been healthy for weeks.
https://russianmachineneverbreaks.co...jured-reserve/

Looks like Robidas Island will soon be getting a new resident.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

It does though if you want to open up a roster spot and you don't have one with Reeves in the lineup.

How does that affect the league? Reaves hasn't been in the lineup. All the Leafs have done is to pay one extra NHL salary (which they had the cap room to do) instead of shuttling waiver-exempt players back and forth to the minors.

The worst you can say is that by keeping him on IR, the Leafs have avoided putting Reaves on waivers and giving other teams a chance to take him off their hands. But does any other team really want Ryan Reaves enough to pay him for three seasons?

The whole situation says ‘nothingburger’ to me.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

The league has no reason to look into regular IR. It's LTIR that is subject to abuse, and that abuse is entirely for cap reasons. The situation with Reaves has zero implications for the league.

They obviously do as teams game the system to gain a roster spots, the PA will certainly be interested too if guys are being held out of games for no reason

We have a playing coming out and publicly saying a team is abusing the system and its no big deal to you because "nobody wants him"

what about that nobody that just signed him to a 3 year multi million dollar deal? Bottom line the league turns a blind eye to these things

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

How does that affect the league? Reaves hasn't been in the lineup. All the Leafs have done is to pay one extra NHL salary (which they had the cap room to do) instead of shuttling waiver-exempt players back and forth to the minors.

The worst you can say is that by keeping him on IR, the Leafs have avoided putting Reaves on waivers and giving other teams a chance to take him off their hands. But does any other team really want Ryan Reaves enough to pay him for three seasons?

The whole situation says ‘nothingburger’ to me.

It doesn't affect the league in this situation because the Leafs so have the cap room to do it but what happens when a team doesn't have the cap room and keeps a guy on IR because the rookie they brought up is killing it and they would rather have him instead of having to send him down for a guy they don't really want anymore? Are we ok if a guy is not working out out you can just put him on IR to open up a roster spot? That is the problem.

[dino7c]

I wouldn't mind RR on the Flames 4th line for 2 rebuilding/retooling years

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I wouldn't mind RR on the Flames 4th line for 2 rebuilding/retooling years

If the Leafs paid to dump him then sure

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by Bonded

If the Leafs paid to dump him then sure

imagine Tree dumping another contract with a first.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

imagine Tree dumping another contract with a first.

It is the least he could do to make up for the ####ery he did here lol

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

It doesn't affect the league in this situation because the Leafs so have the cap room to do it but what happens when a team doesn't have the cap room and keeps a guy on IR because the rookie they brought up is killing it and they would rather have him instead of having to send him down for a guy they don't really want anymore? Are we ok if a guy is not working out out you can just put him on IR to open up a roster spot? That is the problem.

So the problem is not with this situation, but with a different situation that, at this point, is still hypothetical. And the specific problem is with a team not having cap room, so it is, in fact, about cap circumvention, which is not happening in this case.

None of this makes the Leafs guilty of any wrongdoing.

[Tkachukwagon]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1750267100936249651

[Blaster86]

Hughes wants his dad back? I am shocked. SHOCKED.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

So the problem is not with this situation, but with a different situation that, at this point, is still hypothetical. And the specific problem is with a team not having cap room, so it is, in fact, about cap circumvention, which is not happening in this case.

None of this makes the Leafs guilty of any wrongdoing.

Keeping a player on IR when he can play is not doing anything wrong? I am positive the NHLPA will see that very different.

[activeStick]

I was told by the Canuck fans here that they weren't interested in Tanev!!

[D as in David]

I'm pretty happy that the Flames didn't get McLeod in return from the Devils in a trade like that one poster wanted.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by activeStick

I was told by the Canuck fans here that they weren't interested in Tanev!!

Not at the price he will cost when they have bigger needs. Canucks players in particular me er wanted to lose Dad.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by D as in David

I'm pretty happy that the Flames didn't get McLeod in return from the Devils in a trade like that one poster wanted.

Why not? It would have been great to trade for a cellmate for Dube.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by D as in David

I'm pretty happy that the Flames didn't get McLeod in return from the Devils in a trade like that one poster wanted.

I remember those debates. Were there whispers that Flames management has interest in him? Or was it all fan speculation?

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by activeStick

I remember those debates. Were there whispers that Flames management has interest in him? Or was it all fan speculation?

I never saw any rumours that the Flames were interested but it's possible I missed it. There was at least one poster who is/was pretty high on him. I don't know if he would have been a good pickup for the Flames but as it was suggested as a return for Lindholm and/or Tanev (I think), that would have been pretty devastating to have the return become virtually useless so soon afterward.

[dammage79]

It was me that was keen on McLeod. WJC stuff wasn't a consideration until something came of it.

From a pure hockey skillset perspective I'd still try and acquire someone similar. RHS, Center , great skating speed, rock solid 200ft game paired with some record breaking faceoff percentages this season.

There weren't rumors on the Flames end but there were rumors from the NJ end linking McLeod and CGY.
And I wasn't championing McLeod as the primary piece in return, a secondary piece, yes.

Either way, it's all moot now as there's more pressing things with the WJC to put in front.