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Old 10-06-2014, 10:11 AM   #1201
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Drury18: How is my receiving of the letter coincidental? I received it when I said I did, I rejected it and told everyone I rejected it. I have described the letter and Starseed and mrkajz44 confirmed it.

Speaking of the letter let's get back to the cult discussion. someone's must have one right now and it not discussing it. It's been close to 24 hours since mrkajz44 rejected right? Either the have to accept soon or they have rejected it or will reject it and it hiding it. We know what Guardians can reject without consequence. I'm very curious to see what happens when there is an Eternal rejection. What will happen? What do you guys think?
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Old 10-06-2014, 10:12 AM   #1202
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I believe we're 2 votes away from a hmmhmmcamo lynch, but posts like this concern me:
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I'm trying to save my ass because I'm more benefit to the town alive then I am dead... pretty simple.
What happens when hmmhmm comes out an claims cop or vig or some special ability where he can listen in on the mafia thread once a day without seeing the names of the posters? Do we just continue on to the next target after (potentially) revealing another or our best town powers?

I'm not really sure what my point is here, just a concern in general I guess.
Regardless, I think we'd all like to hear from hmmhmmcamo before any lynch goes down.
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Old 10-06-2014, 10:13 AM   #1203
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This post makes me nervous. It seems to me like a last ditch attempt at saving yourself. If you were town, wouldn't you just say it straight up? There a couple of reasons that you might not share your info, but I'd like to hear what you have to say first.

(but at least you're talking... unlike squiggs and Baxter)
I will reveal what my role is and what my night action was last night. The town can use that info, once my card has flipped, to see if what's happened so far makes anymore sense with what I've done. I'd rather not reveal right now, but if it's my time to go I'd like to try and help however I can.

I'm having a busy morning at work but I'm trying to keep up. Let me know if it's death post time.
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Old 10-06-2014, 10:13 AM   #1204
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Drury18: How is my receiving of the letter coincidental? I received it when I said I did, I rejected it and told everyone I rejected it. I have described the letter and Starseed and mrkajz44 confirmed it.

Speaking of the letter let's get back to the cult discussion. someone's must have one right now and it not discussing it. It's been close to 24 hours since mrkajz44 rejected right? Either the have to accept soon or they have rejected it or will reject it and it hiding it. We know what Guardians can reject without consequence. I'm very curious to see what happens when there is an Eternal rejection. What will happen? What do you guys think?
god my typing's so bad, I'm cold. (yoshi fingers)

Let me clean that all up.

Speaking of the letter let's get back to the cult discussion. Someone must have one right now and is not discussing it. It's been close to 24 hours since mrkajz44 rejected right? Either they have to accept soon or they have rejected it or will reject it and is hiding it. We know what Guardians can reject without consequence. I'm very curious to see what happens when there is an Eternal rejection. What will happen? What do you guys think?
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Old 10-06-2014, 10:15 AM   #1205
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I still don't get why we're going to let Matt skate by again. The town gets way more info voting him out than probably any other player at this point. The way some people are convinced we don't need to worry about the new groups doesn't make any sense to me.
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Old 10-06-2014, 10:20 AM   #1206
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I believe we're 2 votes away from a hmmhmmcamo lynch, but posts like this concern me:

What happens when hmmhmm comes out an claims cop or vig or some special ability where he can listen in on the mafia thread once a day without seeing the names of the posters? Do we just continue on to the next target after (potentially) revealing another or our best town powers?

I'm not really sure what my point is here, just a concern in general I guess.
Regardless, I think we'd all like to hear from hmmhmmcamo before any lynch goes down.
Well the good news is that once he claims cop the mafia needs to kill our doc first and then our cop. If they don't do that we can look at lynching them. The other good news is that we can move on to Bax or squiggs and the best two role claims are already gone so we get to lynch someone.
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Old 10-06-2014, 10:22 AM   #1207
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I believe we're 2 votes away from a hmmhmmcamo lynch, but posts like this concern me:

What happens when hmmhmm comes out an claims cop or vig or some special ability where he can listen in on the mafia thread once a day without seeing the names of the posters? Do we just continue on to the next target after (potentially) revealing another or our best town powers?

I'm not really sure what my point is here, just a concern in general I guess.
Regardless, I think we'd all like to hear from hmmhmmcamo before any lynch goes down.
I think your point is that so we always get to the brink and then the victim just has to reveal something and we move on to another person and with the reveal the mafia knows a bit more about us. We keep threatening the wrong people making them have to speak. GP_Matt been threatened twice now and hasn't said a word other than he's got something but it's not the same as ECF and he hasn't used it yet.

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ECF is the doctor, do we believe him?
hmmmmcamo will reveal something, will we believe him?
GP Matt says he doesn't have poison but has something else he hasn't used yet. Do we believe him?

I think it's the main dilemna of Day 2. You have to decide what you believe. I believe ECF and don't believe GP Matt. Still waiting on hmmmmcamo but probably won't believe him either.
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Old 10-06-2014, 10:26 AM   #1208
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Well the good news is that once he claims cop the mafia needs to kill our doc first and then our cop. If they don't do that we can look at lynching them. The other good news is that we can move on to Bax or squiggs and the best two role claims are already gone so we get to lynch someone.
Fair point. It would still be pretty brutal though, to have both our cop and doctor dead by the end of night 3. For me, GP_Matt might be a logical next lynch (assuming fantastic role claim by hmmhmm) as quite a few posters have expressed concern and it could help settle our minds in regards to the cult groups.

The way hmmhmm is posting right now, it seems he's resigned to a lynch today, which likely means he's not about to claim cop or vig.
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Old 10-06-2014, 10:31 AM   #1209
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Fair point. It would still be pretty brutal though, to have both our cop and doctor dead by the end of night 3. For me, GP_Matt might be a logical next lynch (assuming fantastic role claim by hmmhmm) as quite a few posters have expressed concern and it could help settle our minds in regards to the cult groups.

The way hmmhmm is posting right now, it seems he's resigned to a lynch today, which likely means he's not about to claim cop or vig.
Vig is not bad though. Its easily testable and we gain a confirmed townie out of it. Using it on an inactive poster is fairly low risk to the town. Cop hurts us as we would only get two investigations out of him.
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Old 10-06-2014, 10:33 AM   #1210
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We're in a bad spot here.

While I don't trust him, I feel like we might be shooting ourselves in the foot here if we force him to tell us.

I'm starting to get an inkling of suspicion that he just had a bad plan to try and lay low with his ability and it backfired on him.

I don't know what else to do though, other than to make him reveal.
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Old 10-06-2014, 10:38 AM   #1211
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However, at this point I think it's safe to come out and say that we all have powers, right? This is why I wanted everyone to give a chance to get their last post in. Fortunately it didn't seem to matter hugely for RatherDashing but those who knew he could only post in the evening and were in such support to hammer him before he could I think are very suspicious. Now that he revealed light I think the mafia wanted to get him out of the way before he could reveal (and possibly use) his power. From now on anyone not giving time to give the lynchie a death post will be my next vote.
This stuck in my head from a while ago...
Rathji seems to disagree with you.
Just opening another door...
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Old 10-06-2014, 10:42 AM   #1212
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Drury18: How is my receiving of the letter coincidental? I received it when I said I did, I rejected it and told everyone I rejected it. I have described the letter and Starseed and mrkajz44 confirmed it.
It's all laid out here: http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...&postcount=949

You made a lengthy posts about scenerio's for the invites during the day, and then that evening you claim to have received the next one and reported it as rejected the next morning.

There are 16 of us (19 alive, 3 already with membership in a group) who could have received the invite and the person who gets it is also the person who earlier that same day put up a huge post about scenerio's? That's not weird at all to you?
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Old 10-06-2014, 10:43 AM   #1213
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This stuck in my head from a while ago...
Rathji seems to disagree with you.
Just opening another door...
Did I miss rathji saying he didn't have a power? I know he claimed he didn't use a night action, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have any abilities
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This stuck in my head from a while ago...
Rathji seems to disagree with you.
Just opening another door...
Rathji seems to suggest that he does not have a night action. Of course he's not coming right out and saying it - and I don't think anyone blames him for that. But that doesn't mean he doesn't have an ability.
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Old 10-06-2014, 10:48 AM   #1215
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I have never said I have a night action, that I have a night action that targets someone, or if I used a night action. I don't think I implied that I used one, but in case I did, I will clarify: I did not use any night action on Night 1.

Whatever ability was used on me, redirected my night action (which was nothing) to GP_Matt.
He came out and said it today.
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Old 10-06-2014, 10:48 AM   #1216
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We're in a bad spot here.

While I don't trust him, I feel like we might be shooting ourselves in the foot here if we force him to tell us.

I'm starting to get an inkling of suspicion that he just had a bad plan to try and lay low with his ability and it backfired on him.

I don't know what else to do though, other than to make him reveal.
We have an option to not put him to the brink and move the vote to someone else pre-reveal if we think he is being genuine. Our cop can investigate and we leave it until we get more info sometime down the road.

Really up to those voting for him to take the pressure off now before he reveals this evening. We are doing the GP_matt thing again of letting them off the hook before getting the info. But I do read the same things you are in his reluctance to reveal.
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He just said he didn't use a power that night. He neither confirmed or deny that he has a power.
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Yep I can clearly see that now, apparently I had a reading issue this morning.
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Old 10-06-2014, 10:52 AM   #1219
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It's all laid out here: http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...&postcount=949

You made a lengthy posts about scenerio's for the invites during the day, and then that evening you claim to have received the next one and reported it as rejected the next morning.

There are 16 of us (19 alive, 3 already with membership in a group) who could have received the invite and the person who gets it is also the person who earlier that same day put up a huge post about scenerio's? That's not weird at all to you?
It was a conversation with GGG because he wanted to lynch the next person who accepted. I thought it was hasty so I gave out the scenarios of all the possibilities at the time. GGG stated that 2 and 4 were not possible and I agreed and let it go. You will notice that GGG and I disagree a lot.

Then a few hours later, I got the letter.
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We have an option to not put him to the brink and move the vote to someone else pre-reveal if we think he is being genuine. Our cop can investigate and we leave it until we get more info sometime down the road.

Really up to those voting for him to take the pressure off now before he reveals this evening. We are doing the GP_matt thing again of letting them off the hook before getting the info. But I do read the same things you are in his reluctance to reveal.
So you believe he's the cop without needing to push him to the brink and making him reveal.
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