06-28-2014, 09:44 AM
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#101
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by cral12
But what do you really have with Bollig?
Anton has a ton of upside. Had poor offensive output at recent WJC U18, but looked like a forechecking machine at WJC U20s.
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a 27 year old NHLer who is tough to play against, who played a regular shift with an elite team.
Sorry we didn't draft a falling euro instead.
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06-28-2014, 09:44 AM
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#103
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Franchise Player
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good pick up but not worth a third. Granted flames didn't have a 4th or 5th to offer.
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06-28-2014, 09:45 AM
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#104
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by iggysback05
What about Cody McCormick? He's a free agent centre that can play a regular shift and plays tough?
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There are probably a lot of older Europeans and minor leaguers that would love a shot too.
Bollig is 27 and only has 125 games (82 coming last year). Are there really no 23 or 24 year old players in the minors that were in a similar situation to him a few years ago that could also be just as useful? As a rebuilding team with nothing but time, it seems lazy to not keep the pick and find this type of player another way. Not that a late 3rd is anything drastic, but it doesn't seem like the most efficient asset management. I would love to be proven wrong though.
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06-28-2014, 09:46 AM
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#105
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
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Sucks for him but I expect with the news of the $69 million cap the Hawks plans changed in a hurry and had to start looking at ways to shed salary. Good fortune for the Flames but sucks for Bollig.
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06-28-2014, 09:46 AM
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#106
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decent 4th liner...
but worth a 3rd rd pick?!
this seems like an overpayment...
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06-28-2014, 09:47 AM
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#107
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Franchise Player
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It's just not a great draft, nobody is going to give up a guy with 3 years of reasonable term left who can play for a 5th this year.
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06-28-2014, 09:47 AM
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#108
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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This is literally the dumbest thread all week.
There have been a dozen good, fact-filled posts pointing out why Bollig is a great 4th line guy to have, but rather than actually read the thread, literally every second post is "hurr a meathead? wtf?"
Jesus christ people, read and address points, don't just come in and rehash the same bull#### that didn't even make sense the first time it was posted.
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06-28-2014, 09:47 AM
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#109
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Who? How many games has he played in the NHL? Bollig is a full time NHL player.
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And you would trade any current NHLer for any draft pick with that argument?
[apologies for admitted snarkiness - not happy with Flames performance today at all after ecstatic with landing Bennett last night - hope the Flames brass know more than I do - not keen on 2nd rnd selections where they got them and for me I hate parting with picks, even if a 3rd rnder...]
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06-28-2014, 09:47 AM
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#111
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Self-Suspension
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This is actually great. We'll have him during his peak years and it will take a load off Mcgrattan allowing him to play longer as well. Flames management has gotten about 90% of their moves right which is a lot better than previously.
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06-28-2014, 09:48 AM
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#112
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by cral12
And you would trade any current NHLer for any draft pick with that argument?
[apologies for admitted snarkiness - not happy with Flames performance today at all after ecstatic with landing Bennett last night - hope the Flames brass know more than I do - not keen on 2nd rnd selections where they got them and for me I hate parting with picks, even if a 3rd rnder...]
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Do you really want me to answer that?
This draft is pretty terrible after the first 30 or so players. The guys getting picked now will likely never play a full season in the NHL. Let's be realistic here as they got a full time NHLer over what amounts to a needle in a haystack hope and prayer pick.
Last edited by Erick Estrada; 06-28-2014 at 09:50 AM.
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06-28-2014, 09:48 AM
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#113
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Another thing to consider is that Big Ern is getting a little long in the tooth so to speak, so locking up a potential replacement for when he moves on to retirement is a good thing too.
For what McGratton is, a couple years left in the tank is not hard to understand.
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06-28-2014, 09:49 AM
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#114
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#1 Goaltender
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This is PL3 round two
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06-28-2014, 09:49 AM
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#115
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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The Salary cap actually forced Chicago to make this trade, they were over the cap prior to making this deal.
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06-28-2014, 09:49 AM
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#116
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
He's a much better player than Westgarth so I don't understand why fans would be upset about a move that improves the Flames roster over the season before.
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I don't know about anyone else but I'm a bit bummed because
1) We didn't draft a RH D - our biggest need
2) We don't draft again until the 6th round
Had we picked a RH D instead of a goalie in the second then maybe I'd be more behind this trade.
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06-28-2014, 09:49 AM
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#117
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Very good 'advanced stats' for this type of player.
Excellent pickup.
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06-28-2014, 09:50 AM
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#118
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DOOM
a 27 year old NHLer who is tough to play against, who played a regular shift with an elite team.
Sorry we didn't draft a falling euro instead.
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Bollig, to me, is a lad you after if you're a competitor now - that's just me I guess. Realize you gotta ice a squad, but dealin' key picks when you are supposedly in rebuild mode. Not sure I get the logic, but I'm a draft/prospect lover...hopefully Bollig proves invaluable and maybe even convert him for something even more substantial later...
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06-28-2014, 09:50 AM
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#119
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary
decent 4th liner...
but worth a 3rd rd pick?!
this seems like an overpayment...
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IMO in this draft he is definitely worth it. Hes also signed for three more years.
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06-28-2014, 09:51 AM
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#120
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cral12
But what do you really have with Bollig?
Anton has a ton of upside. Had poor offensive output at recent WJC U18, but looked like a forechecking machine at WJC U20s.
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With all this young talent in our top 6, the team is going to need some veteran leadership coming from somewhere. Why not have a Stanley Cup winner watching the kids' backs.
Understandable move. Would have rather picked Vanier myself, but I understand and like the move. ...
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