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Old 01-07-2019, 01:16 PM   #6401
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Nyquist really interests me. Good skilled two way player that would fit in well in Calgary IMO.

Not as a rental though, I'd want him extended at a reasonable price.
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Old 01-07-2019, 01:19 PM   #6402
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Ever since he held his own without Johnny beside him, I've been a huge fan of Kevin Hayes. With that cap hit, I doubt it's a realistic acquisition, but I can dream...
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Old 01-07-2019, 01:19 PM   #6403
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"Dougie Hamilton is arguably the best defenseman in the NHL. At worst, he’s in a class with Drew Doughty, Victor Hedman, Erik Karlsson, Morgan Rielly, Kris Letang and Marc Giordano."

Maybe I just have selective memory, but I don't think any of us were saying Dougie was the "best defenseman in the NHL," and I didn't think anyone outside of the Flames thought that much of him either. Now the Leafs might acquire him after a very underwhelming first half, and he's suddenly a top 6 defenseman?
Toronto fans/media are crazy.

LOLOL is all I have to say...was so glad when he was traded.
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Old 01-07-2019, 01:21 PM   #6404
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On this topic of balking over trading a 1st - what about if it was a conditional 2nd that becomes a 1st if say, the Flames make the Conference Final? Is that worth it?

It looks like if we make the playoffs this year the Isles (from the complicated Hamonic trade) don't get our 2nd. Instead, why not trade it to them with the bonus possibility of it becoming a 1st? Kind of like the Russell trade.
Could you fill me in again on what that complicated trade means? The stipulations?
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Old 01-07-2019, 01:23 PM   #6405
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It's almost like Lindholm and Hanifin's play have increased Hamilton's value.

Traded for a point per game Selke candidate and a 22 year old defenceman on pace for 40 points means Hamilton is one of the best defencemen in the league.

Hope someone overpays cause it won't be Calgary.
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Old 01-07-2019, 01:25 PM   #6406
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Frolik for Ferland?
I love Ferland, but saying that, no, I don't want players with recurring injury problems, especially concussions.
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Old 01-07-2019, 01:27 PM   #6407
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This board has a recurring fascination with bringing ex players back.
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Old 01-07-2019, 01:38 PM   #6408
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Ferland will also cry about playing in the bottom six...no thanks
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Old 01-07-2019, 01:48 PM   #6409
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Ferland will also cry about playing in the bottom six...no thanks
He'll cry?

Based on what exactly?
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Old 01-07-2019, 02:02 PM   #6410
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Ferly is my favourite but i'd be hesitant to spend significant assets for him in a trade or even sign him long term.

He's had too many concussions which will limit his effectiveness. He will never again be what he was in that Vancouver series and honestly, as a fan, I get scared for him every time he gets in a big collision or gets into a fight.
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Old 01-07-2019, 02:04 PM   #6411
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Islanders need solid 2 way top 6 forward and flames could use an offensive #2 rw.

Frolik for Eberle.
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Old 01-07-2019, 02:16 PM   #6412
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I would be okay with a Frolik for Eberle (retained) deal.

Gives the Flames cap space for next year while the Isles can give Frolik minutes and pay him less than his cap hit.

As for Eberle, wasn't he super clutch with Team Canada before he put on the Oiler stink? He could be Gelinas 2.0 for us this post-season. I wish that happens just to see reactions from Oilers fans (Hall winning MVP, Eberle winning cup)
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Old 01-07-2019, 02:18 PM   #6413
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I wonder what Dzingel would cost.



I say get Frolik back full time with 3M and see where it goes.
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Old 01-07-2019, 02:18 PM   #6414
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Flames have to add on that deal for Eberle.
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Old 01-07-2019, 02:20 PM   #6415
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On this topic of balking over trading a 1st - what about if it was a conditional 2nd that becomes a 1st if say, the Flames make the Conference Final? Is that worth it?

It looks like if we make the playoffs this year the Isles (from the complicated Hamonic trade) don't get our 2nd. Instead, why not trade it to them with the bonus possibility of it becoming a 1st? Kind of like the Russell trade.
There's no conditions anymore. The 2nd in 2019 is the Islanders.

The 2019 2nd round pick was either going to Arizona, if the Flames made the playoffs in 2018, or New York Islanders, if they missed the playoffs in 2018.

If they made the playoffs, the Islanders would have received a 2020 2nd (because the 2019 2nd would have gone to the Coyotes).

They missed the playoffs, the 2nd 2019 goes to the Islanders and the Flames got back a 2019 4th round.
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Flames have to add on that deal for Eberle.
I wouldn't think too much though. Maybe we can give one of our B prospects like Spencer Foo.
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Old 01-07-2019, 02:21 PM   #6417
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Athletic top 20 players that could be on the move. Craig Custance. Good write up for each player if you have a subscription. Comments right now it is definitely a buyers market which is great news for us.

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12. Liljegren
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Another young, Swedish defender with significant upside...
Time for some Bradmagic?
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Old 01-07-2019, 02:27 PM   #6418
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Thus, shooting stats lead us to conclusions like: Hamilton is arguably the best defenseman in the NHL.

Stats groupies love him. Fans who actually watch him every night get very frustrated by him. GMs keep trading him away.
Is there a more damning indictment of Corsi (and the advanced stats community) than the reverence they have for Dougie Hamilton?

I like Pinder, but go back and listen to how he lost his mind at the Flames trading away a superb defenceman like Hamilton. That's how deceived advanced stats groupies get by their numbers.
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Old 01-07-2019, 02:37 PM   #6419
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Is there a more damning indictment of Corsi (and the advanced stats community) than the reverence they have for Dougie Hamilton?

I like Pinder, but go back and listen to how he lost his mind at the Flames trading away a superb defenceman like Hamilton. That's how deceived advanced stats groupies get by their numbers.

The one that I love and will never ever forget is Edmonton with their stint having hired Tyler Dellow, advising Dallas Eakins.
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Old 01-07-2019, 02:47 PM   #6420
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Add me to the list that wants Kevin Hayes. Although not at the expense of a 1st.
He would certainly add size and grit.

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