04-20-2018, 06:55 PM
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#601
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Originally Posted by Pipty
Hiring people you know aka buddies... Sounds familiar to a team up north and generally didn't work well for them
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Buddies? What are you talking about?
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04-20-2018, 06:55 PM
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#602
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Franchise Player
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For a guy that never shuts up about truculence, Treliving sure does go out of his way to find the most passive coaches.
Loubardias loves Peters. That's probably a bad sign.
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04-20-2018, 06:56 PM
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#603
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
Excuses for never succeeding
He turned 70 plus point Eric Staal into 50 ish point Eric Staal
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You keep saying this over and over again. I am interested if you have yet bothered to look at the rest of the roster, and considered how other players than E. Staal have performed under Peters' tenure in Carolina.
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04-20-2018, 06:56 PM
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#604
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First Line Centre
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Man, this message board is going to be uninhabitable when the Oilers get rid of McLellan and bring in Sutter. That still won’t be the end of us though - the end comes when Sutter and his fresh faced assistant coach, Glen Gulutzan lead the Oilers to a Stanley Cup victory.
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04-20-2018, 06:56 PM
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#605
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Its just weird because I think the Canes had a more all round better group of Fw's than Calgary had. I mean I dont think they had a Gaudreau or Monahan but their roster is rounded out more evenly.
I know we have a better d corps overall. and better goaltending.
Who knows, maybe Peters can keep his fire lit under the players arses for a whole season, that'd be nice.
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04-20-2018, 06:57 PM
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#606
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Originally Posted by JJolg
Then he also turned Teuvo Teravainen from a 35 to a 65 point player.
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You seriously don’t get it?
Sure, players naturally develop. I’m not saying some players didn’t score or naturally develop
Staal is a 70 point asset before and after, who was producing at 50 points.
Did Teravainen’s offense make Staal’s expendable? No.
Forget your what about ism, he wasted a top tier asset
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04-20-2018, 06:57 PM
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#607
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
For a guy that never shuts up about truculence, Treliving sure does go out of his way to find the most passive coaches.
Loubardias loves Peters. That's probably a bad sign.
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Nope thats Burke that says that.
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04-20-2018, 06:58 PM
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#608
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Racki
Man, this message board is going to be uninhabitable when the Oilers get rid of McLellan and bring in Sutter. That still won’t be the end of us though - the end comes when Sutter and his fresh faced assistant coach, Glen Gulutzan lead the Oilers to a Stanley Cup victory.
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What is the point of this post? Why are we doing this to ourselves?
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04-20-2018, 06:58 PM
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#609
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by kukkudo
Oh really? How do you know that?
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It's a decent guess...Babcock finished dead last when his roster sucked. He loses in the first round with a decent team.
It's probably likely the Babcock coached canes wouldn't have been 15 points better.
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04-20-2018, 06:58 PM
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#610
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Kybb79
I have a good feeling BT will not survive another season here. Hiring his buddy's as coaches is stupid. Yeah he made a good trade for Dougie but his bad moves are starting to overshadow the good. Im impatient and im getting tired of this mediocrity around this team. I sure hope im wrong but im losing my faith in BT.
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BT value: Have the flames held on TOO LONG?
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04-20-2018, 06:59 PM
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#611
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
You seriously don’t get it?
Sure, players naturally develop. I’m not saying some players didn’t score or naturally develop
Staal is a 70 point asset before and after, who was producing at 50 points.
Did Teravainen’s offense make Staal’s expendable? No.
Forget your what about ism, he wasted a top tier asset
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Or he was told to play younger players more...which he was
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04-20-2018, 06:59 PM
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#612
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
You keep saying this over and over again. I am interested if you have yet bothered to look at the rest of the roster, and considered how other players than E. Staal have performed under Peters' tenure in Carolina.
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Yes I even responded directly to you on it.
Again, forget your what about ism, he had a perfectly good 70 point asset available, didn’t get 70 points out if it or anyone for that matter
It’s really not that confusing
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04-20-2018, 06:59 PM
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#613
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Originally Posted by kukkudo
Oh really? How do you know that?
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Same way I know Peters sucks despite having never coached a game with the Flames.
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04-20-2018, 07:00 PM
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#614
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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So this is more Treliving targeting Peter’s than he firing Gulutzan. I wonder if Gulutzan would have come back on a short leash?
There clearly was no search and this was always a one man race
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04-20-2018, 07:00 PM
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#615
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Buddies? What are you talking about?
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Everyone that Brad Treliving has had a past working relationship with now qualifies as his "buddy."
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04-20-2018, 07:00 PM
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#616
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Or he was told to play younger players more...which he was
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Right. More excuses for falling short.
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04-20-2018, 07:00 PM
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#617
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#1 Goaltender
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So if the Flames miss next year does Bill Peters pack his bags with Tre and Burke hahaha
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04-20-2018, 07:00 PM
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#618
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Underground
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As a Flames fan I hope Peter's is the next Scotty Bowman. But the speed at which this "process" was completed is worrying.
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04-20-2018, 07:01 PM
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#619
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kukkudo
So if the Flames miss next year does Bill Peters pack his bags with Tre and Burke hahaha
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yup, and a blow up likely too.
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04-20-2018, 07:02 PM
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#620
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
Yes I even responded directly to you on it.
Again, forget your what about ism, he had a perfectly good 70 point asset available, didn’t get 70 points out if it or anyone for that matter
It’s really not that confusing
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You are right. It's not. You hate Bill Peters and nothing will change your mind. This much is abundantly clear.
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