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Old 03-28-2013, 10:43 PM   #341
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Since the 2003 lockout, please name a few winger you would have rather had. Last few seasons bring down his avg a bit over that time, but his peak years were easily put him in the cream of the crop amongst any winger in the league hands down. Stats as well as the intangibles made that abundantly clear.
I must have missed the 2003 lockout...Iginla has not been the top winger in the league the last 10 years, please take of the homer glasses. 2001-2006 Maybe
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:46 PM   #342
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Feaster got more for Iginla than the Leafs got for Sundin
He got more than what the Kings got when they traded Gretzky to the Blues.
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:58 PM   #343
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The fact that this article exists should be absolutely shameful to this franchise: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/opin...03/post-3.html

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But I'm a big believer that the best organizations work like the perfect machine. No matter what happens, no matter what curveball life throws at them, they adjust almost seamlessly. You might be working like crazy behind the scenes, but, in the public eye, it's all cool.

That's not happening in southern Alberta. Nothing seems to occur without controversy or confusion. You can't have that, especially now.

Feaster's the front man, so he gets the blame. That comes with the job. But, is it deeper than that? Is this an organizational issue? Is it something or someone the public doesn't see?
For an organization that cares so much about their public image, why are they constantly making themselves look like fools?

Enough is enough.
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He got more than what the Kings got when they traded Gretzky to the Blues.
That was almost 20 years ago. If we are going to make comparisons on trades, at the very least keep it in the last decade.
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:05 PM   #345
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The fact that this article exists should be absolutely shameful to this franchise: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/opin...03/post-3.html

For an organization that cares so much about their public image, why are they constantly making themselves look like fools?

Enough is enough.
So I read through that whole article thinking "Wow, whoever wrote this is freakin' clueless".

Confirmed my suspicions when I read who the author was.
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:08 PM   #346
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So I read through that whole article thinking "Wow, whoever wrote this is freakin' clueless".

Confirmed my suspicions when I read who the author was.
It's being proven more and more that the Flames are the clueless ones.

KK was on Sportsnet today saying that they should gotten Iggy waiving to Boston in writing. How can you screw up something so important?

We can be ignorant about this all we want. But I'm no longer going to be Mr. Optimistic. This is a joke.
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:10 PM   #347
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So I read through that whole article thinking "Wow, whoever wrote this is freakin' clueless".

Confirmed my suspicions when I read who the author was.
Elliot Freedman is one of the better guys.

I will admit the first half of the article is speculation, but he is bang on with the 2nd half.
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:12 PM   #348
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KK was on Sportsnet today saying that they should gotten Iggy waiving to Boston in writing.
Wow didn't hear about this. This team is doomed
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:13 PM   #349
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It's being proven more and more that the Flames are the clueless ones.

KK was on Sportsnet today saying that they should gotten Iggy waiving to Boston in writing. How can you screw up something so important?

We can be ignorant about this all we want. But I'm no longer going to be Mr. Optimistic. This is a joke.
Is the bolded part true? In what tone did he say it? ie. jokingly or serious.
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:16 PM   #350
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Is the bolded part true? In what tone did he say it? ie. jokingly or serious.
It was on Primetime with Bob McCown. They asked him whether they would have done it differently, and KK admitted they should have gotten it in writing.

I'm not joking. This is embarrassing.

The image of our management is beyond tarnished. No more excuses.
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Wait, so this move was planned by Feaster to screw up another teams salary structure??

So if the Avs hadn't matched, then the Flames would have an overrated 6.5m player?

The scary thing for me if i was a Flame fan, is the fact that Feaster identified him as a 'franchise' player.
Yeah, the irony is delicious isn't it?

But logic doesn't seem to matter much here anymore
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:18 PM   #352
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I must have missed the 2003 lockout...Iginla has not been the top winger in the league the last 10 years, please take of the homer glasses. 2001-2006 Maybe
Iggy scored more than 40 3x since 2006 including a 2008 hart trophy nomination and leading the western conference in pts put on some real glasses
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In before some Feaster apologist says 'but we wouldn't be picking top 5', but forgets to look at the current standings and where Colorado is with ROR now.
Not to mention Calgary was slotted to pick 6th at the time of the offer sheet
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It was on Primetime with Bob McCown. They asked him whether they would have done it differently, and KK admitted they should have gotten it in writing.

I'm not joking. This is embarrassing.

The image of our management is beyond tarnished. No more excuses.
I don't even know what to think anymore. The management is far more broken than I had ever imagined, just pathetic. It's not like they are trading frakkin baseball cards in the schoolyard. How do you as a professional overlook something like that?
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:23 PM   #355
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Regehr trade he lost and the others all seem to be at best equal trades.

The best thing in Feasters trades for the Flames is that they have been mainly crap for crap so who really cares who wins the Wahl for Testwuide trade or the Piskula for McGratton deal because they are nothing deals that don't change the fortunes of the Flames.

In terms of big deals it is basically this crap deal, the crap deal Regehr deal and the meh Cammalieri deal.

Add in his terrible work in TB, his inability to make big needed changes with the Flames and his mediocre to awful FA signings and there really isn't much for Feaster to hang his hat on in terms of his record as a GM.
I understand that Butler gets a lot of crap on here but at this moment he is the best player in that trade. How exactly did Feaster lose that trade? Because he gave up a second? I won't pretend to know anything about Jake McCabe, but the Flames also passed on him 2 picks before to grab Sieloff so it isn't like they couldn't have him.
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:24 PM   #356
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A pretty good piece by Elliot Friedman:

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/opin...03/post-3.html
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:25 PM   #357
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It was on Primetime with Bob McCown. They asked him whether they would have done it differently, and KK admitted they should have gotten it in writing.

I'm not joking. This is embarrassing.

The image of our management is beyond tarnished. No more excuses.
Wow, just head scratching.

The worst part of it is that King, Edwards and Feaster were all in the same room doing this deal. Those 3 are business men and lawyers, and they didn't know how to do the correct paper work?

Considering the AGM and scouts probably did most of the player and personnel stuff, what did they do?
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:29 PM   #358
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Considering the AGM and scouts probably did most of the player and personnel stuff, what did they do?
Weisbrod was focused on pulling 2 nobodies from the NCAA. As I've said, our management places to much trust in this former NBA executive. He starts focusing on certain pieces and other GMs know they can fleece him for it.

I like Sieloff as a 2nd round pick, but could you imagine this team drafting him at 21st overall if Jankowksi was gone? Absolutely asinine.
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:33 PM   #359
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I understand that Butler gets a lot of crap on here but at this moment he is the best player in that trade. How exactly did Feaster lose that trade? Because he gave up a second? I won't pretend to know anything about Jake McCabe, but the Flames also passed on him 2 picks before to grab Sieloff so it isn't like they couldn't have him.
How is he better than Regehr? Please tell me how. Regehr plays 18:37 a game and is -3 while Butler has been a healthy scratch multiple times and plays 15:38 a game and is -6.

They both play for terrible teams and unless you watch Buffalo play every game I'm not sure how you can say Butler is playing better. Butler is downright awful, I find it hard to believe Regehr would be playing worse. It would take an amazing level of suck to be out sucking Butler. If it wasn't for Babchuk I think he'd be our worst defensemen.

That trade was pretty awful. We gave up a 2nd round pick as well, can't get much worse than that, but wait we also got Ales Kotalik so I guess it did get worse.
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:36 PM   #360
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Kind of hoping something good happens before the deadline to reclaim some sort of respect with the fans and media and the rest of the league, because this is heading into a far more terrible territory than the Oilers could have ever dreamed up.

If King and Edwards and Feaster didn't do their due diligence for a second time as is being reported then we have far worse issues than the on ice product and they sure as heck cannot be bumbling through basic trade procedure and signing procedure.

With Friedmans report and Kings admitance they kind of screwed up its going to be a long hard road back to credibility.
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