The Official Fire Feaster Thread

[kipperfan]

Originally Posted by Brannigans Law

The problem isnt that this deal is horrible, it's that the deal wasn't done 2 years ago. Pretty cut and dry. Iggy dictated this thing and Feaster didn't have a lot of great options. I don't like Feaster, don't get me wrong. He's a talker and talk is cheap.

IMO the deal IS horrible, but you're also correct in saying he should have been moved two years (if not more) ago. Two seperate issues though.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Jebus

The link to tradetracker was posted in the speculation thread.

Looking it over, show me a trade that Feaster lost in the Flames org?
and don't say this one, as it has been stated Jarome held the keys to this trade.

Regehr trade he lost and the others all seem to be at best equal trades.

The best thing in Feasters trades for the Flames is that they have been mainly crap for crap so who really cares who wins the Wahl for Testwuide trade or the Piskula for McGratton deal because they are nothing deals that don't change the fortunes of the Flames.

In terms of big deals it is basically this crap deal, the crap deal Regehr deal and the meh Cammalieri deal.

Add in his terrible work in TB, his inability to make big needed changes with the Flames and his mediocre to awful FA signings and there really isn't much for Feaster to hang his hat on in terms of his record as a GM.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Question. If Pierre McGuire was gm of this team, would we be better off or worse? Personally I think he pulls the trigger on morrow + first, which I have to assume Pittsburgh offered at one point

Once more...this was impossible because Morrow was dealt before Pittsburgh ever made an offer if you follow the timeline Iginla himself just laid out.

[bubbsy]

I'm not even mad at feaster today. This management group had the best winger and goalie in the league for the last decade and didn't know how to create a true contender out of it. They had NO plan whatsoever and the results of that show today. Best asset the team had in 20 years is gone for former 3rd, 5th picks and a extremely low first rounder.

King and the idiots holding the cards should be ashamed of themselves. This team is done and irrelevant for several years now. Thanks.

[the_only_turek_fan]

Also.....

I am not even sure if Jay Feaster is truly running Hockey Ops. John Weisbrod probably had more to do with today's deal than Feaster.

There are a lot of finger prints on this deal. Not just Feaster.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

I'm not even mad at feaster today. This management group had the best winger and goalie in the league for the last decade and didn't know how to create a true contender out of it. They had NO plan whatsoever and the results of that show today. Best asset the team had in 20 years is gone for former 3rd, 5th picks and a extremely low first rounder.

King and the idiots holding the cards should be ashamed of themselves. This team is done and irrelevant for several years now. Thanks.

Cannot under state this, the Flames should have had 2 cups out of an Iginla and Kipper in their prime.

[drPepper1]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

Also.....

I am not even sure if Jay Feaster is truly running Hockey Ops. John Weisbrod probably had more to do with today's deal than Feaster.

There are a lot of finger prints on this deal. Not just Feaster.

Yeah all these NCAA players as of late, and Weisbrod being a former or current collegiate scout

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Cannot under state this, the Flames should have had 2 cups out of an Iginla and Kipper in their prime.

Their moment was 2009. They don't make the Joker trade, I think they make a run to the conference finals. Maybe they don't beat Chicago, but they don't start the death spiral the next year.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

There are a lot of finger prints on this deal. Not just Feaster.

Let's not forget the players. If this team is in a playoff spot these discussions aren't even happening. The team brought in some decent players in the offseason and the players could never get it together and that includes Iginla and Kipper for whatever reason. Maybe it was the short training camp with a new coach or too much of a change in style of play but the players on the ice had a say in this happening and they weren't good enough which led us to today.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Cannot under state this, the Flames should have had 2 cups out of an Iginla and Kipper in their prime.

You can't win without top end center depth.

The Flames have never addressed this issue....and so, we are where we are.

[North East Goon]

Feaster et. al are playing by the Kevin Lowe school of wheeling and dealing. So expect the same results.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

You can't win without top end center depth.

The Flames have never addressed this issue....and so, we are where we are.

They did try; Jokinen was the move. When it became apparent that wasn't going to get it done, they should've moved on from this core.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

You can't win without top end center depth.

The Flames have never addressed this issue....and so, we are where we are.

The Flames never, and still havn't imo, adapted to the changes to the league, the need to draft and develop.

Everything else flowed out of this, you have a proper scouting and development staff you don't take the kid your brother coached as you don't really trust your process you take any one of the great centers in that draft.

[The Fonz]

Feaster got more for Iginla than the Leafs got for Sundin

[dammage79]

Can't really pin this trade on Feaster. This was ownerships baby from the get go.

[Stay Golden]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

Also.....

I am not even sure if Jay Feaster is truly running Hockey Ops. John Weisbrod probably had more to do with today's deal than Feaster.

There are a lot of finger prints on this deal. Not just Feaster.

no question Weisbrod are his eyes and Ears which is why we are seeing an influx of NCAA and USHL drafting ect.
$ to donuts Seth is who they desire in the draft.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Can't really pin this trade on Feaster. This was ownerships baby from the get go.

Not to mention Iginla's list. I can't blame Feaster without knowing exactly what the other offers were and how much Iginla was pulling the strings.

Plenty of other stuff to blame him for though.

[neo45]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Feaster got more for Iginla than the Leafs got for Sundin

But less than they got for Versteeg

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Not to mention Iginla's list. I can't blame Feaster without knowing exactly what the other offers were and how much Iginla was pulling the strings.

Plenty of other stuff to blame him for though.

That's fair. I will wait to see what else transpires before the deadline before I wish we got Burke in to pull the triggers.

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

I'm not even mad at feaster today. This management group had the best winger and goalie in the league for the last decade and didn't know how to create a true contender out of it. They had NO plan whatsoever and the results of that show today. Best asset the team had in 20 years is gone for former 3rd, 5th picks and a extremely low first rounder.

King and the idiots holding the cards should be ashamed of themselves. This team is done and irrelevant for several years now. Thanks.

Everything you said is so true and if I wasn't so sad I'd be fuming mad over all of this.

Jarome did EVERYTHING in his power to drag the Flames kicking and screaming every year to be competitive. It is a travesty that it has come to this. Management should be ashamed of themselves. Iggy should have been our Sakic, our Yzerman who retired in the same silks that he played game #1 for. The fact that is has come to this is something I will never forgive (unless those prospects or pick become an elite player). I'm just so sad now, I don't have it in me to be angry.