[PGT] Fire Ward and trade Bennett

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

This guy is Greg Gilbert all over again. Not to the same extreme as the loss of Bennett can't compare to the loss of Marc Savard but this coach is clueless and toxic, he needs to go now and try and mitigate the damage he has already done to the psyche of this group. I don't care if BT is scared he will walk the plank too, then walk it and be done with it. This is a disaster.

Funny, I was thinking the same thing.

They ended up firing the coach anyway and lost a valuable player for peanuts because a stuborn coach and GM with something to prove devalued the player so much.
Let's hope BT learned from past management mistakes. I mean that GM's brother still works for the team so that history shouldn't be lost. I hope.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by timbit

Very very very few can play in the NHL.

Even fewer can coach in the NHL.

Many of the ones who missed out on the former are convinced they have the aptitude and leadership to not only critique coaches....but actually imagine they would do a better job.

Quite an amazing phenomena.

The Coaches make mistakes...not even close to the number the players make.

I was pretty foul tempered in the GT and said this only less eloquently. I just get tired of the “anyone can do better” comments. It’s way harder than it looks. There’s plenty of legit comments about him, but I do find it funny that people complain he doesn’t make adjustments, and also that he changes the lines, or that he’s too easy, but that he benches guys.

I think Ward is not a good coach compared to a lot of other NHL coaches - his record isn’t and his results so far are not great. I also think his roster doesn’t give him a lot of options and he’s trying to find a combination that works.

I didn’t think it was a great hire, but I think changing coaches now is harder than many have suggested. COVID creates problems and Seattle is also out there as a good opportunity for a coach.

[Savvy27]

Originally Posted by davidus_49

A good team wouldn't have to make you choose who is a better coach between Ward or Gulutzan.

Oof.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

This is not benching-worthy

at 0:07 you can clearly see he's in good position to cut off the high slot. He can't read Hanifin's mind and that's what caused the goal against

OMFG. That got him benched for the rest of the game? When we are already down one of our top Centers.... Ward is ####ing useless. I agree trade Bennett to put him out of his misery.

[SOMBRI]

May be Sutter (Brandon) is a better coach even.

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[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by New Era

Really? He went away from the puck and to the far post where there were two defensemen. I can see why Ward would think that was a pretty big and dumb mistake on Bennett's part. Bench worthy for the rest of the game when Monahan is out? No, but still a pretty stupid play by Bennett.

What I see is that he went to go cut off what might have been a wraparound attempt before the pass was made.

Maybe it was a bad read, but benching worthy? I just don't see it.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

This is not benching-worthy

at 0:07 you can clearly see he's in good position to cut off the high slot. He can't read Hanifin's mind and that's what caused the goal against

He was in glide for the last 30 feet. Not acceptable.

[Bonded]

What actually happened to Monahan

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I really didn't expect that from the Flames.


They got out-played and out-worked by Vancouver. Lots of heat on the team, lots of rumours surrounding the locker room, terrible starts to games, and a chance to start redeeming themselves against their heated rival and put some emotion into this game. Turn the page - at least for one game.


Instead, they just do more of the same.


Rittich was good. A few other players I thought were also good (like Valimaki). I am happy that Rittich did well - it may be between Calgary and Montreal for the best combo in the NHL at this point (if Rittich continues looking sharp like he did tonight). That's a positive for this team no matter what other noise is going on.


This is a dead team. Someone needs to check this team for a pulse. At least poke this team with a stick and see if it grunts.


I will be surprised if Ward is still the coach by this time next week. The way this team is playing? His lineups - especially at key moments of the game? Not a chance that Ward is retained until this time next week.

Prepare to be surprised. He’s going to get a full season. I’m not a huge fan of his but he’s going to get the opportunity to work the team out of this slump, no question.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by New Era

Really? He went away from the puck and to the far post where there were two defensemen. I can see why Ward would think that was a pretty big and dumb mistake on Bennett's part. Bench worthy for the rest of the game when Monahan is out? No, but still a pretty stupid play by Bennett.

He also coasted from the blue in
But it does seem like a very itchy trigger
Don’t know how that helps anyone.
Not a good play by Sam
But don’t like the move by the coach

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

This game or this season?


He had benched Dube as I remembered, did he bench Mangiapane this game? I don't remember seeing him much in the third. I saw Leivo and Frosse a lot.

He’s benched Valimaki and Mackey, to lesser degrees. Of course, rookie benching isn’t unusual.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by zamler

What would the cows name be? Someone make me laugh.

Doesn't matter - it's moo

[JohnnyB]

Tre as a GM is kind of like one of those cursed monkey paws.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

OMFG. That got him benched for the rest of the game? When we are already down one of our top Centers.... Ward is ####ing useless. I agree trade Bennett to put him out of his misery.

Are you serious? that was ####ing terrible

Bennett has 3 points on the year and defends like that...maybe take a man

[Karl]

Originally Posted by dino7c

All this talk about the Oilers depth scoring

2-1 game

Their first line had a goal and the Flames basically scored on themselves

Thing is, their 4th line (Neal-Haas-Chiasson) looked better than most of the Flames forwards tonight. Not least of all light years better than the Flames 4th line calibre players. That is pitiful and quite frankly, embarrassing.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Bonded

What actually happened to Monahan

He had a scheduling conflict.

[FlamesAddiction]

Treliving has to be feeling the heat at this point. He has gone through a lot of coaches and has made some pretty significant trades and signings. He has been given the time and resources to build the team he wants, and this is it.

I have a feeling that if Treliving fires Ward, they are going to use it as a chance to clean house completely.

There is a lot wrong with the team, but ultimately you need to look at the guy who constructed it.

[taxbuster]

So, was there a game tonight?

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

He also coasted from the blue in
But it does seem like a very itchy trigger
Don’t know how that helps anyone.
Not a good play by Sam
But don’t like the move by the coach

Agreed.

It's a bad performance on a bad play, but if that's the standard you'd be icing 4 players by the end of the game. Why just Bennett getting the axe.

Unless there's some other stuff we don't see like lazy practices or a bad attitude, I don't get it

[bzoo02]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Doesn't matter - it's moo

A moo point?

Yeah like a cow's opinion, it doesn't matter. It's moo.