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Old 02-03-2026, 10:34 PM   #27101
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I wonder if Los Angeles would give up Liam Greentree? Nice power forward.
But soooooo slow
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Old 02-03-2026, 10:35 PM   #27102
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I don’t see Montreal going after Kadri after they got Danault especially if the cost is Hage.
Agreed and I am also not convinced they want to move a guy like Anderson who may be considered an important leader for a young team
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Old 02-03-2026, 10:36 PM   #27103
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If he's willing to go there I still think it will be Carolina for Kadri, he really feels like what they've been missing come playoff time.

Aho - Kadri - Staal feels way more like a cup winning center group than Aho - Stankoven - Staal does.

Also...I'm starting to wonder if Carolina would potentially be open to moving Stankoven, who as a RH center would be ideal for Conroy.

$6M contract starting next year and he hasn't really popped the way they expected him to I think.

I still think something like Kotkanemi - Nadeau - 1st would be the more likely path...but I wonder about Stankoven.

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Old 02-03-2026, 10:46 PM   #27104
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But soooooo slow
Sure doesnt seem like its improved and what a shame he is so good in so many other areas.
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Old 02-03-2026, 10:52 PM   #27105
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If he's willing to go there I still think it will be Carolina for Kadri, he really feels like what they've been missing come playoff time.

Aho - Kadri - Staal feels way more like a cup winning center group than Aho - Stankoven - Staal does.

Also...I'm starting to wonder if Carolina would potentially be open to moving Stankoven, who as a RH center would be ideal for Conroy.

$6M contract starting next year and he hasn't really popped the way they expected him to I think.

I still think something like Kotkanemi - Nadeau - 1st would be the more likely path...but I wonder about Stankoven.
I like Nadeau as a target. Yes he's a winger but his production at every level, including the AHL has been strong. I think he's just stuck behind a deep Hurricanes roster. With more opportunity I think he pops.

But yeah Stankoven may be more available than one would think. Under 0.5 points per game.
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Old 02-03-2026, 10:53 PM   #27106
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Misa plays the more important position though.

Maybe Stenberg or McKenna turn out better, but it is a complete unknown at this point. I just don't think if would make sense to trade an amazing prospect for a few years of Kadri. Especially because their window is just beginning, and they have years and years to compete.
More important position, yes. However, it is a position that the Sharks are deep in and he is not required. Celebrini is their #1 and, unlike Misa, Celebrini is a bonified "franchise" player.

They have Smith and they were trying Smith back at C in the end of last season, so that idea can be revisited if Misa was not in the org.

Then there is Bystedt who could be a good middle 6 C. He can start in #3 while Wennberg is still there for the next 3 seasons and work up to #2 if Smith doesn't take it.

And that doesn't even get into their deeper depth chart where they have 2nd round pick Cs like Lund and Mckinney.

I am not sure that the Sharks should go for Kadri though. Weegar would make more sense. Either way, I think Misa is very valuable to the Sharks but I am not sure he needs to be considered untouchable if trading him can address their biggest need (building out their D group at speed to match their emerging forward and goaltending stars).
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Old 02-03-2026, 11:11 PM   #27107
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Maybe a deal around Laine, Anderson & Hage for Kadri + (with retained $%),

Really weaponize that cap space.
Hage is not on the table.
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Praising Treliving for teeing up a rebuild here is quite the take.
It’s not a coincidence that the contracts of Lindholm, Hanifin, Tanev, and Zadorov all expired in the same off-season. It was set up for a big turnover if the team needed a reset.

The Flames hockey ops, like, every other team in the NHL, isn’t a one-man show. The team’s brain trust - most of whom are still in their roles (Edwards, Maloney, and Conroy) was in win now mode during the seasons the Flames were in contention, and make the collective decision to reload when Gaudreau and Tkachuk left. Treliving didn’t go rogue or do anything his bosses didn’t want him to do.

There’s another timeline where Treliving stays with the Flames and oversees the current rebuild. This notion of Treliving and Conroy having opposite approaches is just a fan narrative. They had the GM’s chair at different stages of the team’s contention cycle, and that’s what drove their decisions.
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Old 02-03-2026, 11:15 PM   #27109
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I would like to see the Flames trade Coleman with Retention, then hes definetely bring back a 1st. Kadri should be traded with a bad contract coming back, then were "retaining" but not tied to the retention slot. Then we can either have another forward to help transition to the new core, or we can buy him out or bury him if needed. Then were getting late firsts for both, instead of a late 1st+B and 2nd+B

Then you get the Markstrom and Andersson retentions back for next year for plays on potentially Frost, Whitecloud ect.

Why not just take back 1 of Sturm (2mil/2yr) or Trenin (3.5mil/3yr) in a Kadri deal to Minnisota
With Minnesota I like the idea of taking back Brodin @6mil for two more years as it make the defence better and gives us options on who can mentor the young guys as well as the flexibility to trade Weegar (from a cap perspective).
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Old 02-03-2026, 11:20 PM   #27110
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I would be surprised if Kadri allows a trade to an American team considering the climate down south. A brown man on a working visa with a young family? That's not something I'd be risking right now if I was in his shoes.
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In what world does SJ need or want Kadri?
I was being facetious…
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I wonder if Los Angeles would give up Liam Greentree? Nice power forward.
Something I was thinking about myself...why are hockey folks so overcommitted to uncovering the next power forward?

Why no dedication to uncovering late round or unsigned shifty undersized gems like Panarin, Datsyk, Kucherov, Gaudreau, etc?

Or even the out of no where offensive dman like Giordano, Weegar, Forsling, or even Toews?

The later two seem to have more impact.
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Old 02-03-2026, 11:51 PM   #27113
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Not surprised. It’s one thing for veterans to say they want to stay for rebuild when the team is somewhat competitive like last year . It’s a whole different scene when the losses really start to mount and you realize this is not just going to be a 1 year thing. Won’t be surprised if Weeger changes tune in off season . Hell maybe even backlund will have a change of heart.
Weegar doesnt want to be around for a rebuild
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Something I was thinking about myself...why are hockey folks so overcommitted to uncovering the next power forward?

Why no dedication to uncovering late round or unsigned shifty undersized gems like Panarin, Datsyk, Kucherov, Gaudreau, etc?

Or even the out of no where offensive dman like Giordano, Weegar, Forsling, or even Toews?

The later two seem to have more impact.
I think it’s precisely because players like that can come out of nowhere. There’s no good way to tell at age 18 who will have that rare development curve. Whereas you csn easily tell which players are big, and the only way to get one is to draft him.
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[QUOTE=Cole436;9645401]I would be surprised if Kadri allows a trade to an American team considering the climate down south. A brown man on a working visa with a young family? That's not something I'd be risking right now if I was in his a shoe

First off he won't have a choice if the team is not on his no trade list. Second stop watching cbc news.
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New dream (and highly unlikely in so many ways) scenario for the rest of this year:

1. Flames trade Kadri (20% retained) + Pachal to Detroit for Danielson + 2nd round pick.

2. Flames trade Weegar to San Jose for the Oiler’s 2026 1st round pick + prospect

3. Flames trade Coleman to Tampa for O’Reilly

4. Oilers trade their 2027 1st round pick for a middling forward but really struggle down the stretch and miss the playoffs. Their 2926 pick (now owned by the flames) ends up being 13th overall.

5. Vegas wins the cup - giving the flames an unprotected 1st in the 2028 draft.

6. Flames win draft lottery with their own pick and select McKenna.

7. Flames package the Oilers pick (13th overall) + the Vegas pick (32nd overall) for another pick in the top 10 (~9th overall). They use that pick to select Bjorck.

By the time the summer starts, the flames will have added Danielson, O’Reilly, McKenna and Bjorck to the organization. Two of those players will have been thanks to the oilers who who will have just missed the playoffs.

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I would be surprised if Kadri allows a trade to an American team considering the climate down south. A brown man on a working visa with a young family? That's not something I'd be risking right now if I was in his a shoe

First off he won't have a choice if the team is not on his no trade list. Second stop watching cbc news.
I second this as he will be a Rich (likely afford security) Canadian on a Valid VISA. These are not the people that ICE are going after and the exact people that the left wing of the US want to enter the country. Lastly he might not have a choice with his NTC.

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I would be surprised if Kadri allows a trade to an American team considering the climate down south. A brown man on a working visa with a young family? That's not something I'd be risking right now if I was in his shoes.
If this is True then the USA is truly lost as an Idea...
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More important position, yes. However, it is a position that the Sharks are deep in and he is not required. Celebrini is their #1 and, unlike Misa, Celebrini is a bonified "franchise" player.

They have Smith and they were trying Smith back at C in the end of last season, so that idea can be revisited if Misa was not in the org.

Then there is Bystedt who could be a good middle 6 C. He can start in #3 while Wennberg is still there for the next 3 seasons and work up to #2 if Smith doesn't take it.

And that doesn't even get into their deeper depth chart where they have 2nd round pick Cs like Lund and Mckinney.

I am not sure that the Sharks should go for Kadri though. Weegar would make more sense. Either way, I think Misa is very valuable to the Sharks but I am not sure he needs to be considered untouchable if trading him can address their biggest need (building out their D group at speed to match their emerging forward and goaltending stars).
So, the Sharks trade Misa because they are so deep at centre.

And trade him for a centre?

If they decide they can move Misa, it will be for a dman, not another centre.
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But soooooo slow
True, but I bet he beats Gabe Vilardi in a race, and Vilardi is doing well....
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I like Nadeau as a target. Yes he's a winger but his production at every level, including the AHL has been strong. I think he's just stuck behind a deep Hurricanes roster. With more opportunity I think he pops.

But yeah Stankoven may be more available than one would think. Under 0.5 points per game.
not directed at you, but Stankoven coming back - gross. Like we need another sub 6 footer (and he's well under 6').

Ideally need some size (and skill) in any return for Kadri
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