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Old 02-03-2026, 02:25 PM   #27001
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Hayton, Beaudoin, and 1st for Kadri is fair imo.

Big win for Utah to get Kadri against the central teams, and without gutting Iggy or Desnoyers.
I would take that and run.

Beaudoin is really underrated. Him and a 1st and I'd be happy.
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Has Brad Treliving been running over dogs and divorcing sisters all over Calgary or something?

Man oh man some guys are having a hard time turning the page here. What’s ironic is he basically teed up the Flames got a rebuild which is something that a lot of posters here have been clamouring, literally, decades for. I’d bet a good portion of the people still complaining about Treliving were/are complaining about when the Flames rebuild or how they rebuild.

Acknowledging my name here, but who cares what he does in Toronto good or bad?

….yikes.
He bungled the best team we've had in the last 35 years, blew it up, then fled to greener pastures and brighter lights. Despite having blown up our team he was being hailed as some hockey genius that T.O. stole from us, so the failure is bittersweet comeuppance.
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Old 02-03-2026, 02:34 PM   #27003
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Ive liked Hayton for a while as a guy who could use a change of scenery. More upside than Frost, as a comparable. Though frosty has been way better in the last week since I was comparing him to Kerins lol.

1st + Hayton is a fine Kadri trade. If you could get Beaudoin too, maybe if we threw in a lesser but reasonable prospect, I would be really supportive.

Utah has some great assets in the hopper. Tij, Desnoyers, But, Simashev and more... should make them a pretty exciting team over the next 5 years.
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Old 02-03-2026, 02:40 PM   #27004
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Has Brad Treliving been running over dogs and divorcing sisters all over Calgary or something?

Man oh man some guys are having a hard time turning the page here. What’s ironic is he basically teed up the Flames got a rebuild which is something that a lot of posters here have been clamouring, literally, decades for. I’d bet a good portion of the people still complaining about Treliving were/are complaining about when the Flames rebuild or how they rebuild.

Acknowledging my name here, but who cares what he does in Toronto good or bad?

….yikes.
Praising Treliving for teeing up a rebuild here is quite the take.
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Old 02-03-2026, 02:42 PM   #27005
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Shocked there have been no deals in the NHL yet today.
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Old 02-03-2026, 02:43 PM   #27006
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If we're asking for a Brock Nelson-like trade, you don't stoop down. Utah has the assets; they can't afford to try and squeeze out a "win". They are already behind the 8-ball with Minnesota being proactive and acquiring Q. Hughes. They are also center-starved (both Dallas and Minnesota and can even argue Colorado could use Kadri too), be that team that takes away that opportunity from the other teams in your division from acquiring a player that everyone knows is a difference maker come playoff time. If he wasn't, no one would be asking about Kadri given his age and term.

Hayton, Beudoin, and 1st is not taking too much away from Utah. We can send back a roster player or project prospect back to Utah. Some are underselling Kadri here. Nelson got a lot, so should NK.
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Old 02-03-2026, 02:45 PM   #27007
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Ive liked Hayton for a while as a guy who could use a change of scenery. More upside than Frost, as a comparable. Though frosty has been way better in the last week since I was comparing him to Kerins lol.

1st + Hayton is a fine Kadri trade. If you could get Beaudoin too, maybe if we threw in a lesser but reasonable prospect, I would be really supportive.

Utah has some great assets in the hopper. Tij, Desnoyers, But, Simashev and more... should make them a pretty exciting team over the next 5 years.
Utah has their 1st and they have 3 2nds including the Rangers 2nd. That 2nd is looking like a top 35-37 pick.

They also have $35M cap space next summer.

It will be very interesting what they do with Schmaltz. Nearly a PPG but also a risk for a terrible contract this summer. They are in the playoff mix and with their assets they should buy, but Schmaltz is a key piece, and he could just walk to UFA too.
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Old 02-03-2026, 02:45 PM   #27008
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Nelson trade:
2025-Mar-06 Traded from New York Islanders with William Dufour to Colorado Avalanche for Calum Ritchie, Oliver Kylington, conditional round 1 pick in the 2026 draft and conditional round 3 pick in the 2027 draft

EDIT: Dufour ROCKED the Q, but was not so good in the AHL outside of year 1.
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Old 02-03-2026, 02:46 PM   #27009
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If the Nelson trade value is met, then Beaudoin + 1st makes a ton of sense. Beaudoin was drafted 24th in 2024. Ritchie was 27th in 2023
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Old 02-03-2026, 02:55 PM   #27010
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Hayton's an interesting target. He's roughly the age Sam Bennett was when Calgary traded him and could probably use a change of scenery.

I'm not sure Calgary is the best fit at this time to rebuild his confidence, but he's still got plenty of upside even at 25 and could figure it out.

I doubt Calgary would get Beaudoin too, but a 1st and Hayton is reasonable for old man Kadri.
I don't know that Hayton is that interesting. His draft pedigree is interesting but he does not seem to be living up to his #5OA selection. He has a lot of opportunity to play a bigger role right now with Cooley hurt and he cannot seem to rise to the occasion.

A Kadri trade should be for assets that the other team does not want to give up, not for a player that they need to ship out to make room for Kadri.

Beaudoin being the centerpiece makes more sense, with a late 1st round pick and Hayton is more of a throw in to clear a roster spot for Kadri.

Otherwise I would be looking at what you add to Kadri to get to Desnoyers, which I know is unrealistic but if Beaudoin is off the table then Desnoyers has to be the target (or visa versa). Hayton doesn't have the juice.
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I don't know that Hayton is that interesting. His draft pedigree is interesting but he does not seem to be living up to his #5OA selection. He has a lot of opportunity to play a bigger role right now with Cooley hurt and he cannot seem to rise to the occasion.

A Kadri trade should be for assets that the other team does not want to give up, not for a player that they need to ship out to make room for Kadri.

Beaudoin being the centerpiece makes more sense, with a late 1st round pick and Hayton is more of a throw in to clear a roster spot for Kadri.

Otherwise I would be looking at what you add to Kadri to get to Desnoyers, which I know is unrealistic but if Beaudoin is off the table then Desnoyers has to be the target (or visa versa). Hayton doesn't have the juice.
Since Dec 14 Hayton has 15 points in 22 games. His ice time is up and he has played well. I think it would be a good idea to include him and sign him based on how he has played in his career. Could be a steal of a deal.
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Old 02-03-2026, 03:20 PM   #27012
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Shocked there have been no deals in the NHL yet today.
It should be shocking...but it really isn't.

The only NHL GMs that have the guts to make trades are Vegas and Florida. Both those teams are capped out and lacking assets, so now nothing happens.

The other NHL GMs will all just wait until the last minute at the deadline now, because none of them are ever really pro-active or willing to take any risk.

Always play it as safe as humanly possible.
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It should be shocking...but it really isn't.

The only NHL GMs that have the guts to make trades are Vegas and Florida. Both those teams are capped out and lacking assets, so now nothing happens.

The other NHL GMs will all just wait until the last minute at the deadline now, because none of them are ever really pro-active or willing to take any risk.

Always play it as safe as humanly possible.
Maybe we will see a TB move. They usually are proactive and go for players with term
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Old 02-03-2026, 03:29 PM   #27014
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It should be shocking...but it really isn't.

The only NHL GMs that have the guts to make trades are Vegas and Florida. Both those teams are capped out and lacking assets, so now nothing happens.

The other NHL GMs will all just wait until the last minute at the deadline now, because none of them are ever really pro-active or willing to take any risk.

Always play it as safe as humanly possible.
You are forgetting Minnesota. That was a pretty big trade for Hughes and took guts. But yeah the rest of them seem pretty risk averse.

I wonder if Buffalo takes some big swings here. That new GM doesn't seem scared either.
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Old 02-03-2026, 03:30 PM   #27015
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It should be shocking...but it really isn't.

The only NHL GMs that have the guts to make trades are Vegas and Florida. Both those teams are capped out and lacking assets, so now nothing happens.

The other NHL GMs will all just wait until the last minute at the deadline now, because none of them are ever really pro-active or willing to take any risk.

Always play it as safe as humanly possible.
Easier to have guts when every UFA wants to sign with you
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Since Dec 14 Hayton has 15 points in 22 games. His ice time is up and he has played well. I think it would be a good idea to include him and sign him based on how he has played in his career. Could be a steal of a deal.
Fair enough.

I still would not make him the centerpiece of the deal as he seems like the odd man out if that roster was healthy and has a fair bit of risk that he will not be a steal of a deal.

If you can get him for cheap and then pump up his value then that could be a win as he either becomes a core piece of the team or another good asset to trade.
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I think the Flames would be hard pressed to get Beaudoin, they are probably offering Hayton+1st. Not sure the Flames get much more than that.
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Easier to have guts when every UFA wants to sign with you
Trade for them and try to convince them.

Don't just let Vegas and Florida get them all.
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I think the Flames would be hard pressed to get Beaudoin, they are probably offering Hayton+1st. Not sure the Flames get much more than that.
Hayton + 1st + 2nd would be a nice return. Their first would be trending to the late teens or early 20’s so not a super late pick either
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Hayton, Beaudoin, and 1st for Kadri is fair imo.

Big win for Utah to get Kadri against the central teams, and without gutting Iggy or Desnoyers.
seems like a massive overpay by Utah, I like it
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