10-30-2025, 12:59 PM
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#141
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Originally Posted by GullFoss
Just to be clear, my position is that an intoxicated person inappropriately touching someone else can be attributed as a "lapse of judgement with immediate regret". Also of note, if the 16 yo was okay with it, it's more of a grey area because the issue in part becomes whether or not she's allowed to consent and whether Kesler knew she was 16 or not.
I saw something similar at a gentlemen's club just last week where the guy got a little handsy and the dancer had to be like "no touching" and the gentleman got reprimanded and apologized. And then people moved on. No one seemed traumatized or severely violated. I'm not 100% sure as I didn't ask the dancer, but I'm going back to blondies tmrw, so can ask her if she's working.
I'm not advocating that he should be excused under the law, but it's a misdemeanor charge for forth degree assault for a reason. The law is the law. And the law implies a fourth degree assault is less bad than a third degree assault. And a third degree assault is less bad than second degree assault. And second degree assault is less bad than first degree assault. Fifth degree sexual assault is probably wanking in front people or being a Franky flasher or mooning people out the window of a vehicle. It's less bad than fourth degree.
So the idea of this going to trial seems absurd to me when he probably just plead out and apologize or do an online course.
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You go to a strip club, not a gentleman's club. Let's not pretend there is anything gentleman-like about that.
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10-30-2025, 01:03 PM
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#142
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You know maybe it is best if we do separate from Canada
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10-30-2025, 01:16 PM
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#143
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What the actual <redacted> is this argument? Any adult touching a child (yes under 18 is a gorram child) is reprehensible. Full effin stop. No "wellbut" or "Legally speaking" No.
It's absolutely unacceptable. PERIOD.
Pull you fu&^ing head out ... jesus christ
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10-30-2025, 01:23 PM
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#144
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Guess how old Kesler's daughter is?
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10-30-2025, 02:56 PM
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#145
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Guess how old Kesler's daughter is?
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It's a grey area.
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10-30-2025, 04:01 PM
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#146
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He's being charged with two counts. Based on that, I'm assuming it allegedly happened more than once. Kind of seems to throw the whole intoxicated "lapse of judgement" theory out the window.
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10-30-2025, 04:30 PM
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#147
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blankall
He's being charged with two counts. Based on that, I'm assuming it allegedly happened more than once. Kind of seems to throw the whole intoxicated "lapse of judgement" theory out the window.
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Mind-blowing that anyone immediately suggests that was the case with absolutely zero facts anyway.
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10-30-2025, 04:32 PM
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#148
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Originally Posted by Ped
Mind-blowing that anyone immediately suggests that was the case with absolutely zero facts anyway.
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dude posted facts from the gentleman's club
what more do you want?
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10-30-2025, 04:45 PM
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#149
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
dude posted facts from the gentleman's club
what more do you want?
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I've never been in Blondie's but I've walked past it. It's no gentleman's club.
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10-30-2025, 04:49 PM
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#150
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
I've never been in Blondie's but I've walked past it. It's no gentleman's club.
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his words not mine.
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10-30-2025, 05:08 PM
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#151
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
his words not mine.
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Oh, I know.
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10-30-2025, 06:58 PM
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#152
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Is Kesler on the Epstein list?
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10-30-2025, 07:52 PM
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#153
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WTAF is going on in this thread? Given that the accusations are pretty awful, maybe let's stick to the stuff that's reported and not go off in other directions before some other folks get time off here
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10-30-2025, 09:24 PM
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#154
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When touching equals a criminal charge, the touching under any circumstances was obviously not a lapse in judgement. Adding extenuating circumstances on top of this - her age, apparently relationship to his daughter - makes it more alarming, as well as legally more serious, and unquestionably more repugnant.
There is NEVER a 'lapse of judgement' when sexual assault happens. I don't care at what degree. Being drunk doesn't excuse it.
I don't know if Kesler is guilty of this or not, and all we can do is hope that if he really did do this, the courts will find him guilty and he can enjoy living as a registered sex offender from now on, as he would deserve.
I find it rather disgusting that someone would be playing devil's advocate here - not for the sake of innocent vs guilty, but rather heinous act vs lapse of judgement. That's an absolutely disgusting take on things.
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10-30-2025, 09:38 PM
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#155
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Originally Posted by sketchyt
I love how his defense was made to explain the original opinion in a better light but just adds to the ick factor.
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Gullfoss might be Kesler if you connect the dots.
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10-31-2025, 09:13 AM
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#156
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Some people just shouldn't immediately post the things that pop into their head.
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10-31-2025, 09:31 AM
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#157
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Some people just shouldn't immediately post the things that pop into their head.
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I actually prefer that they do, so we can all see the mask come off in real time and we know who to pin that permanent red flag to. Some really, really gross and concerning takes in here.
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10-31-2025, 10:53 AM
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#158
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Everyone needs to just calm down here.
We need to wait until we know all of the facts.
I for one will be reserving judgement until Gullfoss can confirm whether his favorite stripper thinks there is a difference between the two situations.
I for one commend him for the bravery of his "It doesn't seem like a big deal if you touch a stripper without her consent, so it mustn't be so bad if you grope a teenaged girl" stance.
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10-31-2025, 10:58 AM
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#159
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz
I for one will be reserving judgement until Gullfoss can confirm whether his favorite stripper thinks there is a difference between the two situations.
I for one commend him for the bravery of his "It doesn't seem like a big deal if you touch a stripper without her consent, so it mustn't be so bad if you grope a teenaged girl" stance.
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This is an exceptional post
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11-01-2025, 01:29 AM
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#160
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Ims posteing live form Blondies. Chastity says that ghedrs a difference between rape and sexual touching. And while both are bad one is more badder that the other onez. GUlldoss out. That's thats why one is a misfeamnder and the other is felony.
She also says that shel not everyone is a gentleman, I certainly am one and her favorite one too!n told her about this and she says you gush are bullies.
Gulfos out!!!!
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The fact Gullfoss is not banned for life on here is such an embarrassment. Just a joke.
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