10-27-2025, 05:40 PM
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
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Retired NHL center Ryan Kesler charged with fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/675...ds-not-guilty/
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Ryan Kesler, a retired NHL center, has been charged with two misdemeanor counts of criminal sexual conduct in the fourth degree, according to court records.
Kesler, 41, was arraigned Monday in a Bloomfield Hills, Mich., courtroom, where he pleaded not guilty to the charges, which were filed against him on Oct. 23 over events on Jan. 1, according to court records. His next court appearance, a probable cause conference, is scheduled for Nov. 6.
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10-27-2025, 05:41 PM
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#2
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Franchise Player
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Once a dbag, always a dbag.
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10-27-2025, 05:42 PM
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10-27-2025, 05:55 PM
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Location: Kelowna, B.C.
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Does one of our legal experts want to help some of us out with interpreting what a fourth degree sexual conduct misdemeanor would be in layman's terms?
What kind of a sentence would a guilty verdict or plea would be expected?
Last edited by Red_Baron; 10-27-2025 at 05:57 PM.
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10-27-2025, 05:56 PM
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#5
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Nothing changes on New Year’s day.
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10-27-2025, 05:59 PM
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#6
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Franchise Player
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Michigan?? So this is a separate SA by Kesler from the one that allegedly took place at his hotel/restaurant in Tofino??
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10-27-2025, 06:00 PM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct in Michigan is a misdemeanor involving unwanted sexual touching, often with minors or individuals in vulnerable situations. A conviction can lead to penalties of up to 2 years in prison, fines, and mandatory registration as a sex offender, which can have long-lasting impacts on one's life.
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10-27-2025, 06:00 PM
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#8
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flabbibulin
Michigan?? So this is a separate SA by Kesler from the one that allegedly took place at his hotel/restaurant in Tofino??
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That was a different player. Because of the allegations i'm not going to just guess names.
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10-27-2025, 06:00 PM
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#9
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Franchise Player
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Edit- double post
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10-27-2025, 06:01 PM
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red_Baron
Does one of our legal experts want to help some of us out with interpreting what a fourth degree sexual conduct misdemeanor would be in layman's terms?
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I just Googled it myself and found this:
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(a) A person is guilty of criminal sexual conduct in the fourth degree if he or she engages in sexual contact with another person and if any of the following circumstances exists:
(1) force or coercion is used to accomplish the sexual contact;
(2) the actor knows or has reason to know that the victim is mentally impaired, mentally incapacitated, or physically helpless;
(3) the victim is at least fourteen (14) years of age and under sixteen (16) years of age.
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Obviously awful stuff regardless of the specifics.
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10-27-2025, 06:03 PM
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#11
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red_Baron
Does one of our legal experts want to help some of us out with interpreting what a fourth degree sexual conduct misdemeanor would be in layman's terms?
What kind of a sentence would a guilty verdict or plea would be expected?
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I looked it up and found this:
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(a) A person commits sexual assault in the fourth degree if the person:
(1) Being twenty (20) years of age or older:
(A) Engages in sexual intercourse or deviate sexual activity with another person who is:
(i) Less than sixteen (16) years of age; and
(ii) Not the person’s spouse; or
(B) Engages in sexual contact with another person who is:
(i) Less than sixteen (16) years of age; and
(ii) Not the person’s spouse; or
(2) Engages in sexual contact with another person who is not the actor’s spouse, and the actor is employed with the Division of Correction, Division of Community Correction, Department of Human Services, or any city or county jail, and the victim is in the custody of the Division of Correction, Division of Community Correction, Department of Human Services, or a city or county jail.
(b)(1) Sexual assault in the fourth degree under subdivisions (a)(1)(A) and (a)(2) of this section is a Class D felony.
(2) Sexual assault in the fourth degree under subdivision (a)(1)(B) of this section is a Class A misdemeanor if the person engages only in sexual contact with another person as described in subdivision (a)(1)(B) of this section.
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Sounds like statutory rape. So sex with someone below the age of consent or with someone you are in a position of power or authority over.
Edit: Beaten to the punch.
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10-27-2025, 06:03 PM
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#12
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by MrMike
That was a different player. Because of the allegations i'm not going to just guess names.
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Yikes!! You’re right. I confused them as same team and same era.
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10-27-2025, 06:06 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Here is what Michigan law says about 4th degree criminal sexual conduct.
https://legislature.mi.gov/Laws/MCL?...e=MCL-750-520E
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Criminal sexual conduct in the fourth degree is a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 2 years or a fine of not more than $500.00, or both.
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10-27-2025, 06:12 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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500 dollars? Really?
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10-27-2025, 06:13 PM
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#15
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guy was and is a big dbag
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10-27-2025, 06:28 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Ped
500 dollars? Really?
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They probably haven't changed that fine in a hundred years.
There was a guy in ancient Rome who noticed that the fine for assaulting a citizen, which had once been a lot of money, was now pocket change because of inflation. He went around the Forum punching people, accompanied by a slave who gave them each a few coins to pay the fine. Apparently the Senate got off its duff and updated the fine to something meaningful.
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10-27-2025, 07:02 PM
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Franchise Player
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10-27-2025, 07:04 PM
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All I can get
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Particularly disturbing allegations.
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10-27-2025, 07:41 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMike
That was a different player. Because of the allegations i'm not going to just guess names.
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Willie Mitchell
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