09-26-2025, 09:04 PM
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#5661
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Yanks game starts 2h earlier tomorrow so should be over by the 3rd or 4th inning of the Jays game.
From there on in, either putting the pressure on to keep up or putting the pressure on to make Sunday meaningless.
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09-26-2025, 09:10 PM
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#5662
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiggy_12
Oh 100%. It’s a paradox.
There a good chance that game is important, so you want Gausman.
But then if you end up in the wildcard, you don’t have Gausman available for any of the 3 games (except maybe in a desperation relief role in game 3)
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There are 3 possible out comes at the end of tomorrow:
Jays up a game: If the Jays win and Yankees lose the Jays clinch the division. The Sunday game is meaningless and I think you start Gausman anyway (but maybe only 65 pitches or something like that) to keep him stretched out.
Tied: If both win or both lose then either a Jays win OR a yankees loss gets the Jays the division/league. In this case I think you pitch Gausman to try and get the win. Your fate is in your own hands and you should go full out. It's fairly likely you end up with the bye and he can pitch game 1 ALDS.
Down by 1: if the Yankees win and the Jays lose tomorrow then the Jays need to win AND have the Yankees lose on Sunday to get the division. In this case I don't pitch Gausman and save him for game 1 wild card, because even if you win you have no control over the Yankees game and are probably ending up in the wild card round. Do another bullpen day - that worked great and everyone gets Monday off before the wild card game anyway.
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09-26-2025, 09:21 PM
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#5663
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bizaro86
There are 3 possible out comes at the end of tomorrow:
Jays up a game: If the Jays win and Yankees lose the Jays clinch the division. The Sunday game is meaningless and I think you start Gausman anyway (but maybe only 65 pitches or something like that) to keep him stretched out.
Tied: If both win or both lose then either a Jays win OR a yankees loss gets the Jays the division/league. In this case I think you pitch Gausman to try and get the win. Your fate is in your own hands and you should go full out. It's fairly likely you end up with the bye and he can pitch game 1 ALDS.
Down by 1: if the Yankees win and the Jays lose tomorrow then the Jays need to win AND have the Yankees lose on Sunday to get the division. In this case I don't pitch Gausman and save him for game 1 wild card, because even if you win you have no control over the Yankees game and are probably ending up in the wild card round. Do another bullpen day - that worked great and everyone gets Monday off before the wild card game anyway.
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Yup, agree with this. Right now my nightmare scenario is the Jays down a game on Sunday and trotting out Gausman.
What a fun time of year regardless. This has been such a great unexpected treat
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09-26-2025, 10:10 PM
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#5664
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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I'm honestly not concerned about a Yanks matchup should it come down to it in the playoffs. The Sox are building momentum though, and will seemingly have some nice confidence. Yanks are going to sweep the White Sox because they're garbage, but it really doesn't mean much because everyone does. Jays just have to make sure they play the final games like it's a game 7, because bypassing the wildcard after such a rollercoaster is worthwhile to take a breather to reset.
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09-26-2025, 10:51 PM
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#5665
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pitt Meadows
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I know we weren't really thinking about Seattle but now with their loss today they can't finish 1st in the American League. Winner of AL east takes first in the AL
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09-27-2025, 01:12 AM
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#5666
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
The Jays rotation for next year is in shambles though. Obviously have an entire off season to get it up to snuff, but the front office will have some work to do.
Hopefully this Berrios injury was the cause for his dropping velocity and stuff numbers as the season went on, and hopefully it's something that can be fixed this off season. They're going to need him.
1. Gausman
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3. Berrios
4. Lauer
5. Yesavage
A crap ton of question marks, that's for sure.
Gausman is getting old, Berrios is finishing the season injured, Lauer is one year removed from being in the KBO and Yesavage is a raw rookie.
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Do they have anyone except Gausman who can go more than 5 innings? Even this year?
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09-27-2025, 11:23 AM
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#5667
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Pas, MB
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Of course a meatball to Judge.
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09-27-2025, 11:25 AM
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#5668
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Franchise Player
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So either Aaron Judge is the greatest baseball player of all time or there is some funny business going on.
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09-27-2025, 11:28 AM
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#5669
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Franchise Player
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If we're in the wild card, I feel like I'd prefer Detroit as an opponent to Boston. Wouldn't want Cleveland, though. That might be a razor thin line. Anyone else's thoughts there?
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09-27-2025, 11:35 AM
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#5670
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pitt Meadows
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Pretty sure it's either 1st or 4th for us.
Stanton HR
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09-27-2025, 11:40 AM
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#5671
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat
If we're in the wild card, I feel like I'd prefer Detroit as an opponent to Boston. Wouldn't want Cleveland, though. That might be a razor thin line. Anyone else's thoughts there?
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Yup, same. In order of preference I’d go Tigers, Guardians, Sox
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09-27-2025, 11:42 AM
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#5672
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Scoring Winger
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Yankees on their way to another win, looking like a wild card spot.
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09-27-2025, 11:53 AM
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#5673
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First Line Centre
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The Jays should go all out and try their hardest to win these 2 remaining games to avoid dropping down to the wild card where they have to win 2 games anyways.
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09-27-2025, 12:28 PM
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#5674
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Pas, MB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey
Pretty sure it's either 1st or 4th for us.
Stanton HR
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They already clinched home field advantage so that's exactly what it would be.
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09-27-2025, 12:31 PM
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#5675
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lazypucker
The Jays should go all out and try their hardest to win these 2 remaining games to avoid dropping down to the wild card where they have to win 2 games anyways.
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Do or do not. There is no try.
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09-27-2025, 12:34 PM
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#5676
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CgyFlamesftw
Yankees on their way to another win, looking like a wild card spot.
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Still control our fate regardless
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09-27-2025, 12:43 PM
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#5677
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pitt Meadows
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5-0 Yanks
6-0
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09-27-2025, 12:57 PM
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#5679
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiggy_12
Still control our fate regardless
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I think it would be stupid to start gausman tomorrow if it’s a must win. Would need to rely on bullpen, not to mention Toronto doesn’t play Tampa well at all.
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09-27-2025, 01:01 PM
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#5680
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CgyFlamesftw
I think it would be stupid to start gausman tomorrow if it’s a must win. Would need to rely on bullpen, not to mention Toronto doesn’t play Tampa well at all.
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If the Jays win tonight, absolutely Gausman starts.
Win tomorrow and you advance an entire round.
Versus
Save him for game 1 of the wildcard where if you win, you still need to win another game
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