🚨 The Zayne Parekh show has arrived 🚨

[Reggie Dunlop]

Maybe he's got the Bobby Orr Knee Injury thing happening...

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Tree, you need to learn how to read man.

Enoch, your data is fine, but as Scornfire already pointed out it can't really assess what I am talking about.

I didn't even say there was a specific person at fault. It could be an organizational culture thing, it could be doctors that are at fault, it could be that they listen too much to players, whatever.

Before we focus on assigning blame, can you actually prove it's an issue at all? You seem to have jumped ahead a step or two.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Exactly. Fault for what?

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

Exactly. Fault for what?

You don't seem to understand Monahammer's point.

Of course it's the Flames' fault. What ‘it’ is will be determined from day to day, but there must always be an ‘it’, and ‘it’ must always be the Flames' fault.

Didn't anybody ever teach you to reason backwards from the conclusion you want and make up whatever facts will support it?

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

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Without bothering to aggregate, it is pretty obvious that the Flames have had among the lowest amounts of injuries over the last 5 years - almost certainly, THE lowest.

Definitely time to worry!

So it can only get worse! /s

[Bubba17]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Problem is defenseman usually take a while to get going in the NHL, even Bobby took 3 years to become a star.

Parekh at 19 faces an uphill battle IMO

Rookie of the year at 18, Norris Trophy at 19 then for the next 8 years, Art Ross/Conn Smythe/Hart in year 3 as a 20 year old. I think Bobby was a star from the minute he arrived.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Bubba17

Rookie of the year at 18, Norris Trophy at 19 then for the next 8 years, Art Ross/Conn Smythe/Hart in year 3 as a 20 year old. I think Bobby was a star from the minute he arrived.

Yup, he was third in scoring on his own team (and had very little support on that crap team). 41 points in 61 games. That was more than any other Dman in the league except for two guys on the powerhouse Hawks, and those guys lived off off Hull, Mikita, Hull and Esposito. Bit of a dead puck era too, only Hull, Mikita and Norm Ullman were over PPG.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Tree, you need to learn how to read man.

Enoch, your data is fine, but as Scornfire already pointed out it can't really assess what I am talking about.

I didn't even say there was a specific person at fault. It could be an organizational culture thing, it could be doctors that are at fault, it could be that they listen too much to players, whatever.

And as I pointed out, you haven't actually pointed out anything yet. You haven't made any actual claim, and beyond that, you haven't presented any evidence that would back up any claim - just another vague, "the Flames are the worst, man" statement.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Problem is defenseman usually take a while to get going in the NHL, even Bobby took 3 years to become a star.

Parekh at 19 faces an uphill battle IMO

I think what you meant to say was it took Orr 3 years to become the greatest player in NHL history.