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Old 08-27-2025, 05:47 PM   #12981
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This first season of Rachel Maddow's Ultra is a must listen to in the current era we're in. The Authoritarian movement, Christian Nationalism and the seeds that the Nazi's sewed in America prior to and during WW2 has never went away. Much like the civil war where the Confederates weren't punished for treason and the losers were allowed to keep their flag and celebrate what losers they are the seditionists in America were never punished after WW2. That treasonist nature has never went away. "The South will rise again!" type bull####.

Germany stomped out Nazi symbolism at the end of the war and it still takes celebrating national socialism as a serious crime to this day. America loves to suggest they need to move on and heal. Donald Trump and his cohorts lead a coup trying to steal the last election, the only people punished are now pardoned.

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Old 08-27-2025, 07:43 PM   #12982
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Priests should be packing heat. You can conceal a pretty sizeable arsenal under those frocks.
Yes, any alter boy can confirm that
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yes, any alter boy can confirm that
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Old 08-27-2025, 09:27 PM   #12984
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Good luck being healthy down in the States. A purge happened at the CDC...basically the top five officials were either fired or resigned today

The CDC head talked up vaccines and rfk jr didnt like it... excerpt from the news story

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution, said Mr. Kennedy summoned Dr. Monarez to his office on Monday and demanded that she resign. When she refused, Mr. Kennedy demanded that she remove the agency's top leadership by the end of the week.
Dr. Monarez then called Senator Bill Cassidy, the Republican chairman of the Senate health committee, who in turn called Mr. Kennedy, according to the official. Mr. Kennedy, furious, summoned Dr. Monarez to a second meeting on Tuesday and accused her of
"being a leaker," according to the official, and told her she would be fired.
The official said Dr. Monarez spoke to other senators as well. On Wednesday, a White House official told Dr. Monarez that if she did not resign by the end of the day, President Trump would terminate her.
The four high-ranking agency officials who did resign are Dr. Debra Houry, the C.D.C.'s chief medical officer; Dr. Demetre Daskalakis, who ran the center that issues vaccine recommendations; Dr. Daniel Jernigan, who oversaw the center that oversees vaccine safety; and Dr. Jennifer Layden, head of the office of public health data.

Here are the resignation letters;

https://insidemedicine.substack.com/...-three-top-cdc

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Old 08-28-2025, 01:18 AM   #12985
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It's not the guns. Montana has the most guns per people and has next to no mass shootings. It's a breakdown in society, and it's probably only going to get worse.
Montana might be low on the mass shootings but they are 6th in the nation for gun violence per capita. on average over 500 people are shot every year in Montana and about half die.

The state of Montana has a population well less than the city of Calgary which averages about 30 shootings a year and less than half die.

Do the math but keep telling yourself "It's not the guns"
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Old 08-28-2025, 02:12 AM   #12986
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It's not the guns. Montana has the most guns per people and has next to no mass shootings. It's a breakdown in society, and it's probably only going to get worse.
there's no real difference demographically even culturally between the US, Canada and the UK except the guns, it's absolutely the guns, the more guns a country has the more shootings

I run a high level foster home in Vancouver and have done for decades in arguebly the gang capital of Canada, I almost never deal with guns, my house got shot up once (one of the kids took a front and then smoked the weed instead of selling it), with a .22! what kind of drug dealer is restricted to using a 22 ffs

I have talked to my counterparts in the US, they don't work with gang kids because it's too dangerous

It's the GUNS!!!
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Old 08-28-2025, 02:14 AM   #12987
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It's not just the guns. Some countries, like Finland, cam have a fairly high guns per capita with very little gun violence.

However. we have a lot of restrictions on where and how you can store, carry and use a gun, both legal and cultural.

Also, most of the male population here go through basic military training and are taught to use and respect guns. We know guns are for shooting Russians with imperialist fantasies and hunting, not for pretending you're a big man.

Americans however are NOT one of those rare populations which can handle having guns around.
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Montana might be low on the mass shootings but they are 6th in the nation for gun violence per capita. on average over 500 people are shot every year in Montana and about half die.

The state of Montana has a population well less than the city of Calgary which averages about 30 shootings a year and less than half die.

Do the math but keep telling yourself "It's not the guns"
When you look at maps showing the rate of gun ownership in the individual US states vs gun violence per capita, they look virtually identical.

More guns equal more gun violence which makes a lot of sense. Not sure why anyone would think otherwise.

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Sandy Hook was the line America crossed where they care more about access to guns than children dying.

Deplorable country.
Almost 6 in 10 Americans want stricter gun laws...it's more a tough system of government to actually change anything.
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Almost 6 in 10 Americans want stricter gun laws...it's more a tough system of government to actually change anything.
Famously, the opinions of the bottom 95% in income has zero impact on US policy. Only the elite opinions matter.
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Old 08-28-2025, 08:25 AM   #12991
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America has always had guns. The large amounts of active shooter killings is a fairly recent phenomenon, which points to societal causes.
Sure, let's assume it's societal issues (and ignore the fact that the gun culture IS a societal issue). If you have a society that is violent and unable to control their urge to kill people en masse, maybe you shouldn't sell them guns at every wallmart.
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Old 08-28-2025, 09:01 AM   #12992
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Can’t believe people are still doing the “guns don’t kill people…” schtick in 2025.

Grow up.
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Can’t believe people are still doing the “guns don’t kill people…” schtick in 2025.

Grow up.
Well guns don't kill people.

Bullets do.
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Old 08-28-2025, 10:14 AM   #12994
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It's not just the guns. Some countries, like Finland, cam have a fairly high guns per capita with very little gun violence.

However. we have a lot of restrictions on where and how you can store, carry and use a gun, both legal and cultural.

Also, most of the male population here go through basic military training and are taught to use and respect guns. We know guns are for shooting Russians with imperialist fantasies and hunting, not for pretending you're a big man.

Americans however are NOT one of those rare populations which can handle having guns around.
Similarly, Switzerland:

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Old 08-28-2025, 10:20 AM   #12995
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It's effing crazy how any Canadians with small children would want to live in that kyithole country. Like NHLers wake the eff up.
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Old 08-28-2025, 10:25 AM   #12996
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Can’t believe people are still doing the “guns don’t kill people…” schtick in 2025.

Grow up.
But there's literally a shirt that says otherwise...

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Old 08-28-2025, 10:40 AM   #12997
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He's right in saying that the problem isn't guns.

The problem is lack of education, generations of paranoia and fear, entitlement and sense of superiority, and religion, no respect for life, romanticizing violence... Probably other things.

And then giving those people guns.

Removing guns is the solution, but doesn't directly address the problem.
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He's right in saying that the problem isn't guns.

The problem is lack of education, generations of paranoia and fear, entitlement and sense of superiority, and religion, no respect for life, romanticizing violence... Probably other things.

And then giving those people guns.

Removing guns is the solution, but doesn't directly address the problem.
And guns. Guns are also the problem.
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Old 08-28-2025, 10:56 AM   #12999
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Montana might be low on the mass shootings but they are 6th in the nation for gun violence per capita. on average over 500 people are shot every year in Montana and about half die.

The state of Montana has a population well less than the city of Calgary which averages about 30 shootings a year and less than half die.

Do the math but keep telling yourself "It's not the guns"
Montana typically has less homicides than Saskatchewan. "Gun violence" includes suicides. Montana is a poor state and has a large Native population who unfortunately have a very high suicide rate.
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Guns guns guns guns guns

Guns guns guns guns guns

GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS
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