[Rumour] LeBrun: As of right now, sounds like Andersson only wants to sign extension with VGK

[Niemo]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Craig and Rasmus were on good terms going into the offseason, sounding like that's not the case anymore.

Thanks, Royle.

I hope Conroy learns a deep lesson here.

[MikePatton]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Craig and Rasmus were on good terms going into the offseason, sounding like that's not the case anymore.

Trade? To VGK? How about to the sun? With a cannon?

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Trying to write off peoples takes as being "hindsight" and then saying fans were just impatient, and that you could look back at the 1995 draft thread and see the same thing is 100% a strawman.

You're trying to distort the argument and devalue people's position on this situation.

You're suggesting there isn't a fairly sizeable contingent that isn't impatient and doesn't use hindsight?



If that's true ... sure strawman. If it isn't true and there is that contingent then not a strawman at all.

[keenan87]

This is quite hilarious. Bingo starts a hockey forum so Flames fans can have a discussion.

Flames fans get into discussion with different opinions = Bingo getting annoyed and painting posters as "whiners" and "impatient"

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Maybe it's just an age things for me but... where is the outrage in this thread?

Man, compared to literally any other Canadian fanbase, this thread is unbelievably tame.

I don't see all caps posts. I don't see posters calling for people to be fired.

I see people who are communicating that they are disappointed in what seems to be a common result for this organization.

I just don't understand posts like this. Like any discontent towards the actions of this organization is met with ridicule. It's just weird.

Is that an attempt to mock at the beginning?

But fine I'll retract out rage (though not sure it's not fitting).

How about reflex to find fault in something that may just be?

[dammage79]

Rasmus becoming the villain was an easy step. He foreshadowed it with his end of season press availability.

It's so fitting that the guy who should be the largest trade chip in recent flames history would hamstring the Flames put of a proper return. Yes, he isn't obliged to sign an extension with any acquiring team but at least provide some options so the Flames can get something.

Hamstringing the Flames to deal with only Vegas is a massive middle finger. And I hate him for it. Can't get traded fast enough.

[The Yen Man]

Now that Ekblad is signed, the smart thing for Conroy to do is to let the UFA dust settle tomorrow, and hold teams that missed out on their UFA's over the barrel in terms of assets coming back. If it needs to be with a team that can't extend, so be it. As others have mentioned, those teams will still probably have a better offer than what Vegas can give up for an extended Andersson.

And from seeing how Connie operates, I bet that's exactly what he's doing right now.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Are you saying this based on stuff in this thread, or based on other things you've heard (or both)

Bit of both.
The writing on the wall is pretty clear, and I don't imagine Craig's too fond of being backed into a corner (again) and put in a Hanifin 2.0 scenario.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Is that an attempt to mock at the beginning?

But fine I'll retract out rage (though not sure it's not fitting).

How about reflex to find fault in something that may just be?

Attempt to mock? Just pointing out that maybe we're just reading the same posts and interpreting them differently, for whatever reason.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Bit of both.
The writing on the wall is pretty clear, and I don't imagine Craig's too fond of being backed into a corner (again) and put in a Hanifin 2.0 scenario.

Well hopefully, Conroy learns a big lesson here...

What is the saying - fool me once, shame on you.. fool me twice ...

[442scotty]

Hopefully Vegas overpays to get Marner and Anderson becomes an afterthought for them.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Is that an attempt to mock at the beginning?

But fine I'll retract out rage (though not sure it's not fitting).

How about reflex to find fault in something that may just be?

That’s fair, IMO. You’re probably right about that (seeking to find fault). But in this instance, it’s warranted no?

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Craig and Rasmus were on good terms going into the offseason, sounding like that's not the case anymore.

Might more be with Andersson's agent than Ras himself, but the point still stands. Business ultimately will trump good feelings.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Rasmus becoming the villain was an easy step. He foreshadowed it with his end of season press availability.

It's so fitting that the guy who should be the largest trade chip in recent flames history would hamstring the Flames put of a proper return. Yes, he isn't obliged to sign an extension with any acquiring team but at least provide some options so the Flames can get something.

Hamstringing the Flames to deal with only Vegas is a massive middle finger. And I hate him for it. Can't get traded fast enough.

Andersson isn’t hamstringing any more than Hanifin did. The Flames can still just sell him as a pure rental. Conroy painted himself into a corner on this one.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by keenan87

This is quite hilarious. Bingo starts a hockey forum so Flames fans can have a discussion.

Flames fans get into discussion with different opinions = Bingo getting annoyed and painting posters as "whiners" and "impatient"

100%

I've been blocking all opinions that differ from my own for roughly 28 years.

Amazing people keep coming back.

I haven't block listed anyone at any point in my time here. I welcome discussion.

Doesn't mean I can't get frustrated with the pitchfork crew once in a while.

[NegativeSpace]

Set an auction and move on. Just trade him for the best return this summer and focus on the players that are here. Learn that you can’t let teams negotiate with players to get an extension as a rule moving forward. It appears that Matthew was rare in willing to be fair with the Flames.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

& To add some more background....

there was a thread a couple of months ago where I was harshly critical of Andersson's theatrics at the season end press conference when posters here were cheering each other with what he said and we can't embrace tanking etc and Andersson saying those are not real fans.

I said it back then too-- management was NOT very happy with him at all.

Yeahhhhh that comment felt weird. Not shocked management didn't like it

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Bingo

You're suggesting there isn't a fairly sizeable contingent that isn't impatient and doesn't use hindsight?



If that's true ... sure strawman. If it isn't true and there is that contingent then not a strawman at all.

Now you're moving the goalposts.

You said people that wanted a trade were impatient. Yu were called on it, and now you're saying there are some impatient posters. Of course there are - always. But you should probably let this one go.

[Yeah_Baby]

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Bit of both.
The writing on the wall is pretty clear, and I don't imagine Craig's too fond of being backed into a corner (again) and put in a Hanifin 2.0 scenario.

This is funny to me considering Conroy did it to himself