2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I’m starting to wonder if all these guys from Buffalo that want out are really that “bad in the room” or perhaps Buffalo’s franchise just might be the problem.

Peterka said to be toxic
Byram the same
Eichel was said to have attitude/entitlement issues

The more you look into it, the more things just don’t add up quite right.
Perhaps the sabres room is toxic which starts with the GM who’s some how still employed and flows downhill from there.

It’s 100% organizational poison. They’re run so incompetently that the players have to leave for the benefit of their own career.

The Pegula’s have owned the team how long now? Awful management. How they handled Eichel’s injury showed us everything.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Niemo

Agreed. However Desnoyers intrigues me a lot. Sounds like he is captain material from his combine interviews and he plays a strong 200 ft game. I really like him and can only dream, even if he is "just" a future selke candidate averaging 75 pts and wearing a letter - he can be one of those very key pieces.

If there was confidence he could be that, he would be the #1 pick.
Which don't get me wrong, I think he's a good player and would be an excellent piece. And I think he'll go top 5. But I think his offense will be closer to 50 points than 75.

So when you say if he is "just" a selke, 75 point centre - I think you are under-rating how rare those area, and how unlikely it is he reaches that.

[dammage79]

Oh, Misa, Hagens and Frondell are all those types of centers. This draft may be weak but that doesn't take away from the top of the order.

Misa still not getting the proper amount of love despite being the consolation prize on almost every list.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Oh, Misa, Hagens and Frondell are all those types of centers. This draft may be weak but that doesn't take away from the top of the order.

Misa still not getting the proper amount of love despite being the consolation prize on almost every list.

That would be incredible. The 2015 draft (arguably the strongest draft in recent memory for centers) has 3 centers that proved to be PPG centers. This draft, which almost everyone says is much weaker, could have the same number (or even more depending on which poster one is referencing). That would probably make this the strongest center draft in recent memory.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Maybe playing 1st pair minutes with the other Rasmus helps him get really big bucks next contract?

That's the case I would make to Ras.

The trade is really good for Calgary, so it would be worth getting him to waive if BUF is on his list (must be).

Andersson and Dahlin were paired in the five nations cup weren't they? Maybe Dahlin convinced Andersson that Buffalo is a good spot.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by blankall

Andersson and Dahlin were paired in the five nations cup weren't they? Maybe Dahlin convinced Andersson that Buffalo is a good spot.

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by mile

insiderrr warning:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1934222445600444669

I would not go over 2.5 for vladar either good

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Oh, Misa, Hagens and Frondell are all those types of centers. This draft may be weak but that doesn't take away from the top of the order.

Misa still not getting the proper amount of love despite being the consolation prize on almost every list.

Misa is not far off many of the #1 overall picks. 90 points as a career high for him actually seems quite conservative, with scoring up and all...

McDavid (2014/15) - 44 goals, 76 assists, 120 points in 47 games, 2.55 PPG

Kane (2006/07) - 62 goals , 83 assists , 145 points in 58 games , 2.50 PPG

Misa (2024/25) - 62 goals , 72 assists , 134 points in 65 games , 2.06 PPG

Tavares (2008/09) - 40 goals , 78 assists , 118 points in 59 games , 2.00 PPG

Marner (2014/15) - 44 goals , 82 assists , 126 points in 63 games , 2.00 PPG

Stamkos (2007/08) - 58 goals , 47 assists , 105 points in 61 games , 1.72 PPG


Misa is a lot larger than Kane, and scores a lot more goals than McDavid.
Misa also outscored the next highest forward on his team by over 50 points.
Comparatively, Dylan Strome actually had more total points than McDavid. DeBrincat also had over 100 points.

[dammage79]

Frondell and Hagens are just a step below Misa IMO but 90p seasons for them are well within the parameters. There's a reason folks compare Frondell to Barkov. Barkov-Lite they say. He's a bull with tons of skill.

Hagens I'm not too educated on but by all accounts his playmaking is likely the best in this draft and that says something. So yeah, 3 legit Centers and then there's the rest. Maybe Desnoyers is a half tier below Hagens and Frondell and then there's aess of Centers after Desnoyers that could be in the same grouping.

At 18 I'm really hoping for Cootes this week.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Lewis_D

I've been seeing some rumours floating around about a potential Toews & Kane reunion in Toronto... I don't see anyone substantial reporting on it, I think it was just discussed on the SDPN podcast and the internet took it from there and ran with it.

But man I would love to see that happen and fail miserably. It would remind me of the Leafs of the early 00's that would load up on all these big name players who were clearly over the hill and it never worked out.

I have not heard anything out of Toronto in regards to a reunion. Everything I have heard on Jane is he wants to keep doing one year deals in Detroit. As for Toews the Leafs definitely have interest there and I would not be surprised if he is a PTO with them in the fall.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Andrew

I would not go over 2.5 for vladar either good

I have not heard that all. What I have heard in regards to Vladar is he wants to see in free agency if there is a place where he can get starter minutes or be part of a tandem. If that does not materialize I fully expect him back with the Flames. I think the Flames would go as high as 3.5 AAV on him to keep him in the fold, they still like his upside.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I have not heard that all. What I have heard in regards to Vladar is he wants to see in free agency if there is a place where he can get starter minutes or be part of a tandem. If that does not materialize I fully expect him back with the Flames. I think the Flames would go as high as 3.5 AAV on him to keep him in the fold, they still like his upside.

I don’t see a team in the league where he gets starter mins or more games than he gets in Calgary

[sureLoss]

Czech reporter says Vladar was asking for $2.5 mil per but Flames were unwilling to go that high.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1934330565206954456

[BrownDrake]

I’ve seen a few mocks that project Cootes, Nesbitt and Reschny as 3rdl line centres, we aren’t getting much at 18, I’d almost go get a great 3/4 left hand shot d man at 18 cause those are probably available at that position.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I’m starting to wonder if all these guys from Buffalo that want out are really that “bad in the room” or perhaps Buffalo’s franchise just might be the problem.

Peterka said to be toxic
Byram the same
Eichel was said to have attitude/entitlement issues

The more you look into it, the more things just don’t add up quite right.
Perhaps the sabres room is toxic which starts with the GM who’s some how still employed and flows downhill from there.

I haven’t seen any rumours that Peterka is toxic. Just some assessments that he’s not great without the puck.

The Sabres beat reporters say Byram has been great in the room and one of the more passionate guys in the team. But with two LD already making 11 and 8.3 mil, he’s tough to fit in their salary structure. Especially when they need defensive play more than another puck-mover.

Eichel did have a bit of an attitude. I expect that was mostly down to being young and expected to be a saviour.

But yeah, ownership and their hand-picked GM are the ultimate problem in Buffalo. Until the Pegulas sell the team or bring in experienced management to right the ship, the Sabres are going to be a gong-show.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Czech reporter says Vladar was asking for $2.5 mil per but Flames were unwilling to go that high.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1934330565206954456

Can’t say he’s not worth it, but the team has to draw lines on players like that. For lack of a better word, he’s “disposable”. They have to consider negotiating or dealing him.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Could there possibly be a scenario where we offer Vladar more than 2.5m for one season and then is heavily discounted for the next 2-3 seasons after that?

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by BrownDrake

I’ve seen a few mocks that project Cootes, Nesbitt and Reschny as 3rdl line centres, we aren’t getting much at 18, I’d almost go get a great 3/4 left hand shot d man at 18 cause those are probably available at that position.

Cootes and Reschny that would be their floor. Nesbit, his ceiling.

The D available aren't that great this draft. And there'll likely be a run on them before 18. IMO, they'd be reaching for a D man at 18.

[traptor]

Kind of suprised they're so tight on Vladar. I would of been fine taking him back from 2.5-3. Feels like they're ready to move on if they won't budge 250k.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Czech reporter says Vladar was asking for $2.5 mil per but Flames were unwilling to go that high.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1934330565206954456

Well there you go, I stand corrected. If the Flames won't even go to $2.5 with the cap space they have they must be moving on from Vladar. I wonder if the plan is Cooley?