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Old 06-15-2025, 06:20 AM   #17241
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I just can't see Andersson approving a trade to Buffalo. At all.
I don’t see it at all.

Andersson, as sure as I can be, will have other options in, frankly, better locations and organizations.

I’ll be stunned if he ends up in Buffalo. Further, Raz doesn’t seem like the kinda guy who would chase money, solely. I think he wants to win.
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Florida is going to want to continue going all in. Figure out if you can get the 26/27/28 1st, Samoskevich, and a 2nd in any year too. I’d rather just keep giving them the players if they’re the only eastern threat for Edmonton lol
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FWIW Andersson has no power to block a trade, he can choose not to resign (which again I can’t see him signing in Buffalo) but crazier things have happened.

He also has a 6 team no trade list, that’s the only restriction and it’s very possible Buffalo could be on there.
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Old 06-15-2025, 08:13 AM   #17244
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Guys, nothing with our team has changed.

If it wasnt for Lindholm and Hanifin saving us and saying no to us giving basically a blank cheque, we would have overpaid 2 more old players.

Things will never change with Murray at the helm. I have no doubt we will overpay for Rasmus now.
Yes!

Lets dig into this again.

Surely there is something that we haven't covered!

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Old 06-15-2025, 08:22 AM   #17245
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No they didn’t. He was ready to sign in November but we had a losing steak. They had a deal done in January agin he balked. You can go look it up. I provide the links before.

The flames got forced into selling. But that won’t fit your narrative.
So the only way to give the Flames credit for not signing a player is if they never made an offer or talked contract?

Zadorov wanted more money.
Tanev and Tofoli wanted more term.
Lindholm wanted more money than they were comfortable with.
They wanted Hanifin to stay but he didn't want to sign.

It's prudent to find the lines on quality players and not go into a period of expiring contracts with a "not signing anyone" hard line.
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I mean there is another Rasmus in Buffalo who’s an all star LHD and fellow countryman, obviously I’m still of the opinion Ras likely blocks a trade to Buffalo but I do think playing heavy minutes with Dahlin would be something that he’d at least think about before making his decision.
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Neither of those trades Royle posted seem realistic to me (I understood the disclaimer)

The Buffalo deal is a dream for the flames. Add a top 10 pick and long term Dman for the left side by trading a veteran and 3rd rounder from last year? If that deal went down all of CP is rejoicing.


The Dallas deal is also interesting and doesn’t help their cap at all. 32 year old Dman at $9M is the main piece that brings back a 26 year old 40 goal guy? I don’t see that one at all

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Old 06-15-2025, 08:44 AM   #17248
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I don’t see it at all.

Andersson, as sure as I can be, will have other options in, frankly, better locations and organizations.

I’ll be stunned if he ends up in Buffalo. Further, Raz doesn’t seem like the kinda guy who would chase money, solely. I think he wants to win.
Maybe playing 1st pair minutes with the other Rasmus helps him get really big bucks next contract?

That's the case I would make to Ras.

The trade is really good for Calgary, so it would be worth getting him to waive if BUF is on his list (must be).
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Old 06-15-2025, 08:44 AM   #17249
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Yea both trades seem more like NHL25 trades than realistic hockey trades.
I was told this morning if 9th OA was available for that price it would have been a done deal yesteryear.
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Yea both trades seem more like NHL25 trades than realistic hockey trades.
I was told this morning if 9th OA was available for that price it would have been a done deal yesteryear.
Have you heard of anything regarding Peterka?
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Old 06-15-2025, 08:46 AM   #17251
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So the only way to give the Flames credit for not signing a player is if they never made an offer or talked contract?

Zadorov wanted more money.
Tanev and Tofoli wanted more term.
Lindholm wanted more money than they were comfortable with.
They wanted Hanifin to stay but he didn't want to sign.

It's prudent to find the lines on quality players and not go into a period of expiring contracts with a "not signing anyone" hard line.
I agree. I don't have a problem with the Flames discussing contracts with all the players you listed. It's strange holding the Flames' management accountable to mistakes they didn't actually make. Besides, If the Flames signed a Hanifin or a Tanev instead of Bean or Miromanov they might've actually been a 100 point team plenty of cap space this year.

I'm just glad the Flames are getting much better at giving looks and opportunities to prospects at the NHL level, I've really been missing the constant influx of youth, energy, and quite frankly the love for the game prospects bring each game. I can't wait to see Parekh next year.
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I mean there is another Rasmus in Buffalo who’s an all star LHD and fellow countryman, obviously I’m still of the opinion Ras likely blocks a trade to Buffalo but I do think playing heavy minutes with Dahlin would be something that he’d at least think about before making his decision.
That team is such a mess I doubt Anderson or any quality player with some sort of clause in contract would even think about waiving for Buffalo.

In my opinion I think buffalo should start over and tear it down to the studs. Right now they need quality veterans and I don’t think they can trade or sign them as UFas .
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Old 06-15-2025, 08:53 AM   #17253
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I agree. I don't have a problem with the Flames discussing contracts with all the players you listed. It's strange holding the Flames' management accountable to mistakes they didn't actually make. Besides, If the Flames signed a Hanifin or a Tanev instead of Bean or Miromanov they might've actually been a 100 point team plenty of cap space this year.

I'm just glad the Flames are getting much better at giving looks and opportunities to prospects at the NHL level, I've really been missing the constant influx of youth, energy, and quite frankly the love for the game prospects bring each game. I can't wait to see Parekh next year.
And getting better at framing what the dollars and term needs to be and then not crossing that line potentially.

We all know they loved Chris Tanev, but from what I understand the Flames wanted 2 years and he wanted 4.

Traded.

That's a very good sign.
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And getting better at framing what the dollars and term needs to be and then not crossing that line potentially.

We all know they loved Chris Tanev, but from what I understand the Flames wanted 2 years and he wanted 4.

Traded.

That's a very good sign.
Ya it is pretty clear that Craig has a plan and ownership has bought in and Murray is not pulling strings being the scenes. Anyone who thinks Murray is are on some serious drugs that seem like they would be more enjoyable on a Friday night than for rational analysis of your favourite hockey team.
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I agree. I don't have a problem with the Flames discussing contracts with all the players you listed. It's strange holding the Flames' management accountable to mistakes they didn't actually make. Besides, If the Flames signed a Hanifin or a Tanev instead of Bean or Miromanov they might've actually been a 100 point team plenty of cap space this year.

I'm just glad the Flames are getting much better at giving looks and opportunities to prospects at the NHL level, I've really been missing the constant influx of youth, energy, and quite frankly the love for the game prospects bring each game. I can't wait to see Parekh next year.
I think the main reason I was frustrated was why even talk contract with Lindholm? Or with Tanev? It was clear to me that the team needed to rebuild or at the very least needed a big overhaul and were not winning with that group.

It's really a matter of where you see the team though. People who think we are a couple players away from sneaking in and making a run, and don't want to rebuild are fine with it. Those who wanted big changes and a rebuild were not happy about it.

Basically it comes down to the philosophy of the team and how close you think we are. It's clear a Murray Edwards team will never rebuild, but that doesn't mean that isn't what some of us wanted.
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Old 06-15-2025, 09:43 AM   #17256
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Murray's definitely signed off on the plan but he's not directly meddling.




The plan regarding vets appears to be to keep them while under contract. Once UFA is approaching they decide on a number they're willing to keep them at (a fair market deal), and if that can't be met they sell them.

With Spots that open up, they'll prioritize internal growth, unless there's no solid options.
I actually think there's a pretty strong chance Rasmus stays, because I dont think they'll lowball him. It depends if he wants to.




I personally dont agree with the overall approach but it's what they're set on.
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Old 06-15-2025, 09:48 AM   #17257
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I think the main reason I was frustrated was why even talk contract with Lindholm? Or with Tanev? It was clear to me that the team needed to rebuild or at the very least needed a big overhaul and were not winning with that group.

It's really a matter of where you see the team though. People who think we are a couple players away from sneaking in and making a run, and don't want to rebuild are fine with it. Those who wanted big changes and a rebuild were not happy about it.

Basically it comes down to the philosophy of the team and how close you think we are. It's clear a Murray Edwards team will never rebuild, but that doesn't mean that isn't what some of us wanted.


Because unfortunately the plan is to not tank or rebuild.


Its asset management. at the right price they wpuld of kept all of them. They just dont want to overpay or have them walk for free.
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Old 06-15-2025, 09:58 AM   #17258
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Have you heard of anything regarding Peterka?
Only that the Flames had interest, but price depending.
I’m a big Peterka fan personally, but he does have some baggage.

I think it’s safe to say that if they are under 25 and producing “well” that Calgary probably has some interest. Obviously favouring the center ice posistion, but our right side is weak too.

Lastly a LHD.
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Because unfortunately the plan is to not tank or rebuild.


Its asset management. at the right price they wpuld of kept all of them. They just dont want to overpay or have them walk for free.
When you end up trading every asset you don’t sign for draft picks and young players you are rebuilding. It might not be the decade long tank job but it is rebuilding.
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I just saw Seravalli mention the same rumor that Royle gave us a couple days ago. Regarding dangling our 2 picks to move up.

I'm glad we have our own insider on this board. He's faster to report than the insiders on TV!
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