2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Calgary4LIfe]

I would be happy to trade quite a lot to get Misa. More than most on this board, in fact. I see an opportunity to grab quality that is only available by tanking - I will trade a lot of quantity. Flames are damn amazing at drafting quantity (and quality for position - it is just near impossible to draft a #1 center without a high pick). It will cost a lot - it will cost a significant 'over-payment'. If the Flames had the #2 overall pick, would anyone be happy with a 'fair deal' for quantity vs quality? I know I would be livid. It has to be an over-payment.



18th + Florida
Andersson (or probably the assets from an Andersson trade to another club)
Choice of prospect other than Parekh and Wolf
Zary


That's essentially 5 first round picks' worth. Does that get it done?



I like Misa a lot. I think he will be the real deal, and fairly similar to Celebrini overall. Someone that can be good on both sides of the puck. He already has chemistry with Parekh, so that's a bonus. He was also by far an engine for the team, not a bystander or even someone who is a part of a really good top line (like Dvorak, for instance). He led the team in points with 134 in 65 games. Parekh was second with 107 in 61. Big drop down to an undrafted 19 year old who had 83 in 65. Great skater, very cerebral, makes plays at speed, and probably could have had even more points if he didn't bother as much on the defensive side of the puck. That's just my opinion though. I am always ok with giving up a lot of quantity for top-quality.



Spine of the team becomes Misa-Parekh -Wolf. That's pretty good. Flames still have a lot of pieces to build around those three - and who knows, maybe the quantity pushes the Flames into the McKenna sweeptstakes. Mckenna-Misa-Parekh-Wolf probably wins a cup or two, especially since Calgary is pretty good at finding players in a draft.


As for Rossi - I would pass. The assets that they would want I would rather spend at the draft. Yes, he put up a good amount of points, but he is an undersized 2nd line center. i don't think he is a first. I would rather draft Reshny or someone else in that area of the draft instead. This team needs the bullets to hit on a center that turns into a #1 center or this rebuild might end up like more of the same we have seen in the last decade - not much playoff success. The goal shouldn't be to become a playoff team. it should be to become a contender - a consistent contender. I see acquiring Rossi as helping the Flames become a playoff team, but not a contender. I know I am not articulating this well enough, but I really see him as a #2 center, or even convert him to a top line winger. I don't see him as a top-line center. He will get 70points as one, but I don't think he will be able to push the pace out there against the league's top shutdown players, or do well matched-up against the league's top lines in a 'strength-vs-strength' situation.


Flames are FLUSH with quantity in the 2nd line down. Zary, Coronato, Klapka, Honzek, Frost, Farabee, Battaglia, Gridin, Bahsa, Misa, Suniev, Stromgren, Kerins - yes, some of these guys won't make it, and most will obviously not be as good as Rossi is. I would just rather the Flames use their picks on guys who they think can be #1 centers either through the draft or through trade, rather than using assets to acquire more depth, even if that depth is better than what they may have.

[OILFAN #81]

Apparently the team is Nashville. Haven’t been told what is offered other than the picks (apparently there is more both ways), but as of now Sharks haven’t made a decision.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by saillias

Just me but I hope they don't spend assets on Rossi, or Bourque, or Mercer. The remaining hole in the depth chart is for a superstar level center, not another mid 6 guy. You don't need to roll 4 lines of 35-40 point players. I guess if you're building the Kraken or Islanders you do

It's a good thing the Flames already have an entire first line of 50-70 points already, and Rossi had 60 points last season.

I also think if Parekh works out, we'll see a boost in all the top PP players' numbers.

The Flames are going to find themselves log jammed with depth picks. Frost, Farabee, Coronato, Zary, Sharangovich, and Klapka all fill depth positions (although Coronato, Zary, and possibly Frost could evolve into something more). With these late firsts, you're far more likely to draft these 35-40 point guys you talk about than you are a Rossi.

[OILFAN #81]

My last post of the day, have to head back to work. Got confirmation that Nashville is indeed the team that has already tabled an offer. Sharks waiting as more dialogue/teams are anticipated to be interested and apparently it wasn’t enough for them to make it happen already. Nashville is the only offer on the table right now but as mentioned they are expecting more talks.

Cheers CP.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

My last post of the day, have to head back to work. Got confirmation that Nashville is indeed the team that has already tabled an offer. Sharks waiting as more dialogue/teams are anticipated to be interested and apparently it wasn’t enough for them to make it happen already. Nashville is the only offer on the table right now but as mentioned they are expecting more talks.

Cheers CP.

Only a few teams are flush with picks this draft.
Nashville-sj-chicago-montreal-philly.

All of them have multiple picks in the first three rounds.

Nash could have offered 26-30-35-58-67( might change slightly)

[Monahammer]

Coronato + 18 + Fla 1st+ Mews would be my final offer. I don't think Zary will tilt the scale enough.

[Roof-Daddy]

Haha, every year nearing the draft its the same ridiculous proposals to move up.

[MacDaddy77]

Coronato is NOT getting traded after signing long term not happening, sends the wrong message.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Fan69

Only a few teams are flush with picks this draft.
Nashville-sj-chicago-montreal-philly.

All of them have multiple picks in the first three rounds.

Nash could have offered 26-30-35-58-67( might change slightly)

If I were the sharks I would not bite (no pun). It’s not enticing enough. You’d probably have to start with the first two and give a really good player.

[MacDaddy77]

I feel unless 5th overall pick is in play Flames can beat Nashville offer with
Andersson
#22
brzustewicz

Gives them potential 2x top 4 Right side Dmen for the next 7 years and a 1st in return

Not a huge take from Flames prospect pool as we have Mews coming for that RHS Dman
(or Makar in a couple years)

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by MacDaddy77

Coronato is NOT getting traded after signing long term not happening, sends the wrong message.

Messaging has gotten us literally no where. No one is mad about getting paid 40 million to play hockey in California. It is unlikely to happen, I say again, but that's the type of cost to move up into the top 2 IMO.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by saillias

Just me but I hope they don't spend assets on Rossi, or Bourque, or Mercer. The remaining hole in the depth chart is for a superstar level center, not another mid 6 guy. You don't need to roll 4 lines of 35-40 point players. I guess if you're building the Kraken or Islanders you do

Rossi will be an 80 point guy. The guy personally made Jack Quinn an 8th overall pick in junior. Watched him play a lot in junior and he was elite. Suspect he still is, he has put up numbers at every level he has ever played in.

Brayden Point was also way too small, put up numbers at every level. In his D+3 year point put up 40 points in the NHL. In Rossi’s D+4 year he put up 40 points. In Point’s D+4 year he put up 66, in Rossi’s D+5 year he put up 60.

I would much rather have Rossi for what it would likely cost to get him than to go crazy trying to get #2 pick.

[SuperMatt18]

Nashville has 3 1sts.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's 5 + 26 (Tampa Bay) + 30 (Vegas) for 2.

TBH I think that could make sense for San Jose unless they are sold that Martone or Misa is drastically better than what they could get at 5. Probably all comes down to how they rank the top 5 propsects. My guess is they wanted Schaefer but believe he goes 1st OV to NYI, so if they have Martone, Misa, Hagens, and Frondell all ranked relatively equally...then moving back to 5 doesn't seem that bad.

San Jose would have 5, 26, 28, 30, 33, 53 in that scenario.

Which would give them a lot of assets to be able to move for more immediate help on defense while still adding a high end forward as a prospect.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Nashville has 3 1sts.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's 5 + 26 (Tampa Bay) + 30 (Vegas) for 2.

TBH I think that could make sense for San Jose unless they are sold that Martone or Misa is drastically better than what they could get at 5. Probably all comes down to how they rank the top 5 propsects. My guess is they wanted Schaefer but believe he goes 1st OV to NYI, so if they have Martone, Misa, Hagens, and Frondell all ranked relatively equally...then moving back to 5 doesn't seem that bad.

San Jose would have 5, 26, 28, 30, 33, 53 in that scenario.

Which would give them a lot of assets to be able to move for more immediate help on defense while still adding a high end forward as a prospect.

Much more likely than us having a sniff at it.

If they are flush with later picks they could potentially be talked into giving one for Andersson. I still don't think he's worth a 1st but there is probably the most likely scenario we could snag one in.

I think Buffalo might be open to trading 9, too. Maybe you let the SJ scenario shake out with Nash, see if we can get another 1st from them in the wake, then see if we can package 18 and one of the others to get to 9.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Nashville has 3 1sts.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's 5 + 26 (Tampa Bay) + 30 (Vegas) for 2.

TBH I think that could make sense for San Jose unless they are sold that Martone or Misa is drastically better than what they could get at 5. Probably all comes down to how they rank the top 5 propsects. My guess is they wanted Schaefer but believe he goes 1st OV to NYI, so if they have Martone, Misa, Hagens, and Frondell all ranked relatively equally...then moving back to 5 doesn't seem that bad.

San Jose would have 5, 26, 28, 30, 33, 53 in that scenario.

Which would give them a lot of assets to be able to move for more immediate help on defence while still adding a high end forward as a prospect.

Sj, chicago and philly have that ability as well to make deals and i think most of them will. As i mentioned before they can all offer a first,second, third in a trade, still have picks in all those rounds including top ten.

All of those teams have the assets and motivation to make deals.

[albertGQ]

2 for 5 + 26 + 30 is similar to 1 for 6 + 22 + 28

Mackinnen >>>> Monahan + Porier + Klimchuk

I know its a different year with different players but I almost always choose quality over quantity

[Funkhouser]

PHI gets #2
SJ gets #6, 25 and Bonk

Gets SJ some depth on D and the opportunity to still grab a future top six centre

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Haha, every year nearing the draft its the same ridiculous proposals to move up.

My favourite were all the Lindholm for 3rd OA proposals

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

That would be the dumbest offersheet ever.

5 years x whatever is the upper limit to 2 1sts, a 2nd, and a 3rd? Different story.

I wouldn’t give that package for Bouchard. Whe signs a big $$$ deal he will disappear. He gets pts because of the glitter twins, complete liability for his team.

[browntrout]

I would give an insane amount to get the 2 nd overall, I think at the end of the day it we cost us Parekh or wolf, san Jose needs quality as well, they don't need more pics.