05-08-2025, 10:47 AM
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#14301
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by traptor
I don't get this at all from the Wilds perspective, but he would be an amazing grab for the Flames.
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From an article on the issue:
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/fly...205659049.html
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And despite his breakout 24-goal, 60-point campaign, the Wild eventually demoted Rossi to fourth line in the six-game first-round loss to the Vegas Golden Knights in the Stanley Cup playoffs, then publicly declared a search to find help for their No. 1 center, Joel Eriksson-Ek.
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Based on this, the Wild and Rossi are clashing. Eriksson-Ek and Hartman are the top two centres they plan to run with.
Also, the Wild would be looking for a very high end young forward in return, who is in his prime now. They are likely looking for situation where they have two scoring combos. Maybe Kaprizov/Hartman and then Eriksson-Ek/Boldy/X.
The Flames likely don't have the piece the Wild are looking for. If Zary or Coronato were a little bit further along in their development, a hockey trade could have been possible. As it stands, many other teams will be able to offer up a better player than the Flames. Although the flames got Frost for Pelletier, so you never know.
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05-08-2025, 10:57 AM
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#14302
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Franchise Player
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I think he's just not a Bill Guerin type and it would be smart to take advantage of that bias if you can for a reasonable price.
The Flames need all sorts of centres. Rossi doesn't solve the issue for a top line centre, but could potentially be a strong 2C for a long time.
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05-08-2025, 10:58 AM
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#14303
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by blankall
From an article on the issue:
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/fly...205659049.html
Based on this, the Wild and Rossi are clashing. Eriksson-Ek and Hartman are the top two centres they plan to run with.
Also, the Wild would be looking for a very high end young forward in return, who is in his prime now. They are likely looking for situation where they have two scoring combos. Maybe Kaprizov/Hartman and then Eriksson-Ek/Boldy/X.
The Flames likely don't have the piece the Wild are looking for. If Zary or Coronato were a little bit further along in their development, a hockey trade could have been possible. As it stands, many other teams will be able to offer up a better player than the Flames. Although the flames got Frost for Pelletier, so you never know.
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Wild are set on d so they don't need Rasmus. We don't have the forwards they want, they seem to value big over small skilled players.
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05-08-2025, 10:58 AM
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#14304
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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So what's the issue with Rossi? The rumours about him leaving Minnesota have been going on since well before the playoffs started and it doesn't really make sense to demote him to the 4th line after a 60 point season for no reason.
Is it just because he is small for a top 6 center? I get how that can be an issue, but he has a sold weight for his height and still put up points while not being the worst defensively.
It just seems like there could be some red flags there.
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05-08-2025, 11:11 AM
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#14306
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by blankall
The Flames likely don't have the piece the Wild are looking for. If Zary or Coronato were a little bit further along in their development, a hockey trade could have been possible. As it stands, many other teams will be able to offer up a better player than the Flames. Although the flames got Frost for Pelletier, so you never know.
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I wouldn't offer Coronato for Rossi, not even close.
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05-08-2025, 11:32 AM
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#14307
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
So what's the issue with Rossi? The rumours about him leaving Minnesota have been going on since well before the playoffs started and it doesn't really make sense to demote him to the 4th line after a 60 point season for no reason.
Is it just because he is small for a top 6 center? I get how that can be an issue, but he has a sold weight for his height and still put up points while not being the worst defensively.
It just seems like there could be some red flags there.
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I think it is literally just because he is small and the Wild management don’t think he can be a part of a contender. I think most Wild fans are expecting a trade they won’t be happy with.
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05-08-2025, 11:34 AM
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#14308
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blankall
The Flames likely don't have the piece the Wild are looking for. If Zary or Coronato were a little bit further along in their development, a hockey trade could have been possible. As it stands, many other teams will be able to offer up a better player than the Flames. Although the flames got Frost for Pelletier, so you never know.
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I think Rossi would already be traded if the Wild could get a player like Coronato or Zary. I’m guessing a lot of GMs feel the same about his size.
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05-08-2025, 11:46 AM
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#14309
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Rossi should be the offer sheet target. I doubt Minnesota would put up much of a fuss.
Flames need skill of all sizes. He'd be a decent addition.
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05-08-2025, 11:53 AM
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#14310
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
It's a saying, you don't take it literally. Obviously I am not saying anyone has mental issues.
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Now you're telling me how to take things? You're not the boss of me, pal.
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05-08-2025, 11:53 AM
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#14311
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by dammage79
Rossi should be the offer sheet target. I doubt Minnesota would put up much of a fuss.
Flames need skill of all sizes. He'd be a decent addition.
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I can't see offer sheet as the best option. The Wild's cap situation improves dramatically this off season and I doubt they let him go for a 2nd and I doubt the Flames should make an offer that includes their 1st next year.
I see Rossi moving before July 1 as well.
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05-08-2025, 11:53 AM
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#14312
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Rossi should be the offer sheet target. I doubt Minnesota would put up much of a fuss.
Flames need skill of all sizes. He'd be a decent addition.
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Don’t think Rossi signs for 4.5 million and I wouldn’t want the Flames to give up an unprotected 1st. I’d give up one of the 25 1sts easily though.
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05-08-2025, 11:54 AM
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#14313
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Any new Flames rumors from the insiders here? Haven't seen any in a while.
Keep the Sharks ones coming - much appreciated.
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05-08-2025, 11:56 AM
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#14314
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Maybe put together a trade involving Anderson for Rossi and either or both teams add to the trade as needed.
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05-08-2025, 11:59 AM
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#14315
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by Bonded
I think it is literally just because he is small and the Wild management don’t think he can be a part of a contender. I think most Wild fans are expecting a trade they won’t be happy with.
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The Flames have become one of the bigger teams, by size, in the NHL. Rossi could actually be a solid fit. He's short, but not really that small and has room to put on more weight. He plays a pretty tenacious game. He forechecks aggressively and isn't afraid to get in front of the net.
The Flames just desperately need a centre with offensive upside. Kadri-Rossi-Frost isn't bad as far as centre depth goes.
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05-08-2025, 12:00 PM
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#14316
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Pospisil + 2025 FLA 1st for Rossi
Pospisil feels like a guy Guerin would love.
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05-08-2025, 12:11 PM
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#14317
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Franchise Player
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Just me but I hope they don't spend assets on Rossi, or Bourque, or Mercer. The remaining hole in the depth chart is for a superstar level center, not another mid 6 guy. You don't need to roll 4 lines of 35-40 point players. I guess if you're building the Kraken or Islanders you do
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05-08-2025, 12:22 PM
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#14318
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by saillias
Just me but I hope they don't spend assets on Rossi, or Bourque, or Mercer. The remaining hole in the depth chart is for a superstar level center, not another mid 6 guy. You don't need to roll 4 lines of 35-40 point players. I guess if you're building the Kraken or Islanders you do
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I agree with the premise, but without getting that more guranteed top of the draft center, we're going to have to take swings until we find one.
Rossi feels like the closest.
24g and 60pts is pretty good for 23 year old in 2nd full year that's getting demoted.
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05-08-2025, 12:23 PM
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#14319
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Franchise Player
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Don’t trade picks ! We are no where near proper contention
Draft well and eventually pull off a trade for the superstar with the drafted players like Dallas did with Rantonen or Vegas with Eichel
Now if you can get Rossi for roster players or existing prospects who aren’t blue chipper potential sure why not . A deal is a deal
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05-08-2025, 12:24 PM
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#14320
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Scoring Winger
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Rossi was Guerin's first pick as the GM, and while he's short, he's a beefy kid and he plays with a decent amount of physicality. I don't think this is about him not being a Guerin guy.
I also don't see him being available because of centre depth. Hartman is a big part of that team, and very much a strong playoff type player, but he's not productive enough to be a typical second line centre on a long-term contender. He's your high end 3rd line centre with leadership.
Other than the playoff demotion, this very much just seems like Rossi wants more money than the Wild want to pay him, and Guerin will trade him if they can't figure it out and he gets a good enough offer. I don't expect him to get traded for cheap, and the Wild will match any offer sheet unless its from a bottom feeding team and they feel there's a real chance at getting another McKenna ball.
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