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Old 05-08-2025, 10:47 AM   #14301
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I don't get this at all from the Wilds perspective, but he would be an amazing grab for the Flames.
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And despite his breakout 24-goal, 60-point campaign, the Wild eventually demoted Rossi to fourth line in the six-game first-round loss to the Vegas Golden Knights in the Stanley Cup playoffs, then publicly declared a search to find help for their No. 1 center, Joel Eriksson-Ek.
Based on this, the Wild and Rossi are clashing. Eriksson-Ek and Hartman are the top two centres they plan to run with.

Also, the Wild would be looking for a very high end young forward in return, who is in his prime now. They are likely looking for situation where they have two scoring combos. Maybe Kaprizov/Hartman and then Eriksson-Ek/Boldy/X.

The Flames likely don't have the piece the Wild are looking for. If Zary or Coronato were a little bit further along in their development, a hockey trade could have been possible. As it stands, many other teams will be able to offer up a better player than the Flames. Although the flames got Frost for Pelletier, so you never know.
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Old 05-08-2025, 10:57 AM   #14302
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I think he's just not a Bill Guerin type and it would be smart to take advantage of that bias if you can for a reasonable price.
The Flames need all sorts of centres. Rossi doesn't solve the issue for a top line centre, but could potentially be a strong 2C for a long time.
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Based on this, the Wild and Rossi are clashing. Eriksson-Ek and Hartman are the top two centres they plan to run with.

Also, the Wild would be looking for a very high end young forward in return, who is in his prime now. They are likely looking for situation where they have two scoring combos. Maybe Kaprizov/Hartman and then Eriksson-Ek/Boldy/X.

The Flames likely don't have the piece the Wild are looking for. If Zary or Coronato were a little bit further along in their development, a hockey trade could have been possible. As it stands, many other teams will be able to offer up a better player than the Flames. Although the flames got Frost for Pelletier, so you never know.
Wild are set on d so they don't need Rasmus. We don't have the forwards they want, they seem to value big over small skilled players.
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Old 05-08-2025, 10:58 AM   #14304
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So what's the issue with Rossi? The rumours about him leaving Minnesota have been going on since well before the playoffs started and it doesn't really make sense to demote him to the 4th line after a 60 point season for no reason.

Is it just because he is small for a top 6 center? I get how that can be an issue, but he has a sold weight for his height and still put up points while not being the worst defensively.

It just seems like there could be some red flags there.
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Old 05-08-2025, 11:03 AM   #14305
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Conroy would be wise to take advantage of as many poor GMs or those with huge blind spots as possible, before they inevitably get fired.
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Old 05-08-2025, 11:11 AM   #14306
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The Flames likely don't have the piece the Wild are looking for. If Zary or Coronato were a little bit further along in their development, a hockey trade could have been possible. As it stands, many other teams will be able to offer up a better player than the Flames. Although the flames got Frost for Pelletier, so you never know.
I wouldn't offer Coronato for Rossi, not even close.
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So what's the issue with Rossi? The rumours about him leaving Minnesota have been going on since well before the playoffs started and it doesn't really make sense to demote him to the 4th line after a 60 point season for no reason.

Is it just because he is small for a top 6 center? I get how that can be an issue, but he has a sold weight for his height and still put up points while not being the worst defensively.

It just seems like there could be some red flags there.
I think it is literally just because he is small and the Wild management don’t think he can be a part of a contender. I think most Wild fans are expecting a trade they won’t be happy with.
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The Flames likely don't have the piece the Wild are looking for. If Zary or Coronato were a little bit further along in their development, a hockey trade could have been possible. As it stands, many other teams will be able to offer up a better player than the Flames. Although the flames got Frost for Pelletier, so you never know.
I think Rossi would already be traded if the Wild could get a player like Coronato or Zary. I’m guessing a lot of GMs feel the same about his size.
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Rossi should be the offer sheet target. I doubt Minnesota would put up much of a fuss.

Flames need skill of all sizes. He'd be a decent addition.
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Old 05-08-2025, 11:53 AM   #14311
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Rossi should be the offer sheet target. I doubt Minnesota would put up much of a fuss.

Flames need skill of all sizes. He'd be a decent addition.
I can't see offer sheet as the best option. The Wild's cap situation improves dramatically this off season and I doubt they let him go for a 2nd and I doubt the Flames should make an offer that includes their 1st next year.

I see Rossi moving before July 1 as well.
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Rossi should be the offer sheet target. I doubt Minnesota would put up much of a fuss.

Flames need skill of all sizes. He'd be a decent addition.
Don’t think Rossi signs for 4.5 million and I wouldn’t want the Flames to give up an unprotected 1st. I’d give up one of the 25 1sts easily though.
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Any new Flames rumors from the insiders here? Haven't seen any in a while.

Keep the Sharks ones coming - much appreciated.
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Maybe put together a trade involving Anderson for Rossi and either or both teams add to the trade as needed.
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I think it is literally just because he is small and the Wild management don’t think he can be a part of a contender. I think most Wild fans are expecting a trade they won’t be happy with.
The Flames have become one of the bigger teams, by size, in the NHL. Rossi could actually be a solid fit. He's short, but not really that small and has room to put on more weight. He plays a pretty tenacious game. He forechecks aggressively and isn't afraid to get in front of the net.

The Flames just desperately need a centre with offensive upside. Kadri-Rossi-Frost isn't bad as far as centre depth goes.
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Old 05-08-2025, 12:00 PM   #14316
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Pospisil + 2025 FLA 1st for Rossi

Pospisil feels like a guy Guerin would love.
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Just me but I hope they don't spend assets on Rossi, or Bourque, or Mercer. The remaining hole in the depth chart is for a superstar level center, not another mid 6 guy. You don't need to roll 4 lines of 35-40 point players. I guess if you're building the Kraken or Islanders you do
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Just me but I hope they don't spend assets on Rossi, or Bourque, or Mercer. The remaining hole in the depth chart is for a superstar level center, not another mid 6 guy. You don't need to roll 4 lines of 35-40 point players. I guess if you're building the Kraken or Islanders you do
I agree with the premise, but without getting that more guranteed top of the draft center, we're going to have to take swings until we find one.

Rossi feels like the closest.
24g and 60pts is pretty good for 23 year old in 2nd full year that's getting demoted.
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Old 05-08-2025, 12:23 PM   #14319
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Don’t trade picks ! We are no where near proper contention

Draft well and eventually pull off a trade for the superstar with the drafted players like Dallas did with Rantonen or Vegas with Eichel

Now if you can get Rossi for roster players or existing prospects who aren’t blue chipper potential sure why not . A deal is a deal
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Old 05-08-2025, 12:24 PM   #14320
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Rossi was Guerin's first pick as the GM, and while he's short, he's a beefy kid and he plays with a decent amount of physicality. I don't think this is about him not being a Guerin guy.

I also don't see him being available because of centre depth. Hartman is a big part of that team, and very much a strong playoff type player, but he's not productive enough to be a typical second line centre on a long-term contender. He's your high end 3rd line centre with leadership.

Other than the playoff demotion, this very much just seems like Rossi wants more money than the Wild want to pay him, and Guerin will trade him if they can't figure it out and he gets a good enough offer. I don't expect him to get traded for cheap, and the Wild will match any offer sheet unless its from a bottom feeding team and they feel there's a real chance at getting another McKenna ball.
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