04-30-2025, 07:56 AM
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#1041
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: wearing raccoons for boots
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Im expecting a GoFundMe to start up to help pay his moving expenses out of Stornoway
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04-30-2025, 08:13 AM
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#1043
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: On the cusp
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
It looks like all ridings have been called. The Liberals held on to Terra Nova in the end.
So baring any unlikely recount reversals, the Liberals will finish with 169 seats. The Conservatives will have a decent opposition force with 144 seats.
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I think what would be smart is to put MPs from Sask and AB into those positions so they can help shape the policy going forward... oh wait. We would rather sit outside the arena and listen on the radio while others are playing the game. When will we ever learn? Maybe it will be different next time? Hahaha.
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04-30-2025, 08:16 AM
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#1044
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: On the cusp
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Originally Posted by Yamer
I'm wondering what happened to Azure.
I've licked so many boots in the past little while and he's the only one that would be interested in hearing about it!
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Bootlicker!!
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04-30-2025, 08:34 AM
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#1045
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by DoubleK
Is there a good website to visualize the results from the different elections?
I've looked at the National Post and CBC websites but it's not exactly what I'm after. Would like to see the change in vote for each election. National Post has a toggle for the last election, but I want to go back further than that.
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something like this?
https://public.tableau.com/app/profi...esults/Explore
Tableau Public is a good resource for almost anything. This is only 2004-2015. Email the guy and ask him to add more years!
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04-30-2025, 08:50 AM
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#1046
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: On the cusp
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Originally Posted by rubecube
There are plenty of things to be critical of Carney for. Only a lemming would think any political leader is above reproach.
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I agree with your point, but am interested in the legitimate things to be critical of him.
So far, I have heard he did a good job for his employers. I really don't see how this is a criticism. He is an advocate of environmentalism, but it appears to me he knows the value of the O/G industry and that oil will be around for a long time, but we do need to figure out how to use it without killing the planet. This seems like a reasonable approach to me.
I would like to hear any legitimate criticisms.
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04-30-2025, 09:00 AM
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#1047
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: On the cusp
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
It's almost like the PC's should never have allowed the Reformers to swallow them whole. Instead the Reformers spent over a decade complaining that they were unelectable and it wasn't fair. Instead of, you know, changing to be less weird, they, well, first the did the opposite and put Stockwell Day in charge, then eventually took over. Now it's pretty obvious there are only scattered remnants of PC's left in the party, and they've fully transformed it back to that party no one wants to elect, except they now stand a chance because they don't have a vote split.
This, ultimately, is the fault of Preston Manning, who has done more damage to traditional Conservatives than the Liberals have in the history of the country by eliminating them from Alberta and at the Federal level. I wish I lived in a timeline where he didn't exist.
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This is pretty harsh, but I think it is reasonably accurate as well. What we don't realize is that the Ezra, PP, Manning types are political nerds who know how to take over a party. It all happens at the grass level, party leadership level. Hardly anyone cares, and it's easy to overwhelm these groups with supporters and win the levers of power. From there, they can control the policies and the candidates. When the cancer is in charge of the party, they are not about to expel the other cancers that think like them. Truly, we have a faux democracy; we get to vote, but that vote is between two, or sometimes more, candidates that are a product of the Kool-Aid of each party. Unfortunately, the best supporters are usually pretty passionate, which gives them the drive and energy to attend all the meetings, plot and scheme, and put in the time to take over the parties. Maybe it can be a route to the power they crave.
I wish I had an answer. I don't. I am tired just getting through my day.
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04-30-2025, 09:03 AM
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#1048
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by surferguy
Maybe he can do zoom calls into the House of Parliament from the Petro Canada lot on highway 1.
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He should sit in the gallery every day, and each day someone should acknowledge his presence like they do when school kids are there. Clap and everything
(i am actually not sure what the HOC has for a gallery compared to the AB Leg)
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04-30-2025, 09:29 AM
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#1049
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Given how quick they were to oust O'Toole for his election failure, I can't imagine the Conservatives will keep Poilievre. But the lifetime politician will likely squirm more than anyone to find a way to stick around politics.
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04-30-2025, 09:34 AM
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#1050
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
Given how quick they were to oust O'Toole for his election failure, I can't imagine the Conservatives will keep Poilievre. But the lifetime politician will likely squirm more than anyone to find a way to stick around politics.
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04-30-2025, 09:38 AM
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#1051
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan2
I would like to hear any legitimate criticisms.
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On my end, refusing to call what's happening to Palestinians a genocide sticks out like a sore thumb.
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04-30-2025, 09:52 AM
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#1052
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Franchise Player
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My criticism is the refusal of successive federal governments (lib & con) to find a way to build energy export infrastructure. Canada could have had a seat at the big boy global security table if this was the case.
I do not work in O&G btw.
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04-30-2025, 10:02 AM
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#1053
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
My criticism is the refusal of successive federal governments (lib & con) to find a way to build energy export infrastructure. Canada could have had a seat at the big boy global security table if this was the case.
I do not work in O&G btw.
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I don't either. But I think we are far too eager to pull our crude out of the ground and ship it off at discount prices. If we are to build more pipelines to export to other markets. I'd also like to see similar investment in upgrading so that we are getting more value out of the resource.
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04-30-2025, 10:02 AM
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#1054
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
My criticism is the refusal of successive federal governments (lib & con) to find a way to build energy export infrastructure. Canada could have had a seat at the big boy global security table if this was the case.
I do not work in O&G btw.
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I think that's a fine overall. It's hard to really pin it on Carney though.
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04-30-2025, 10:06 AM
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#1055
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Monster Storm
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Calgary
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Is it possible for Carney work with the bloc to get a pipeline through Quebec? With the ground shifting I think it’s possible. Carney probably couldn’t say this during the campaign for fear of pushing votes away.
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04-30-2025, 10:10 AM
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#1056
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by surferguy
Is it possible for Carney work with the bloc to get a pipeline through Quebec? With the ground shifting I think it’s possible. Carney probably couldn’t say this during the campaign for fear of pushing votes away.
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He doesn't have to work with the Bloc if the CPC agrees to do business instead of playing politics. If PP cares as much about a strong and secure Canada as he says he does, he should be trying to make a deal with Carney that cuts the Bloc and NDP out.
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04-30-2025, 10:11 AM
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#1057
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by surferguy
Is it possible for Carney work with the bloc to get a pipeline through Quebec? With the ground shifting I think it’s possible. Carney probably couldn’t say this during the campaign for fear of pushing votes away.
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Does a pipeline need to go through Quebec? A line direct to Ontario consumers should be enough no?
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04-30-2025, 10:13 AM
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#1058
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: In my office, at the Ministry of Awesome!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
My criticism is the refusal of successive federal governments (lib & con) to find a way to build energy export infrastructure. Canada could have had a seat at the big boy global security table if this was the case.
I do not work in O&G btw.
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I mean, people keep saying this, but there are 2 new export routes that exist despite being built during the Trudeau years.
TMX is a bit of a mess financially, but it doesn't get built without the support of Federal Liberal and Alberta NDP Governments.
LNG Canada is coming on line, another project that was approved and constructed while the Liberals have been in power.
By contrast, Conservative Governments in alberta have:
1) cancelled an oil by rail project put in place by the Alberta NDP (Can't remember the cost, but the UCP actually spent money to be able to export less)
2) Spent 1.5 B on a pipeline with very real risk of being cancelled (That's why TC wanted someone to put up the money....in case that happened), and it did.
So again they spend a bunch of money to not be able to export any more oil.
So you've got:
Conservatives: Spending money for no benefit
Liberals: Spent more, but at least there are 2 new export lines/facilities going to the west coast
The Liberals certainly haven't been perfect, but let's not pretend like the Conservatives have a lead here. Hell, the score isn't even tied.
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04-30-2025, 10:16 AM
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#1059
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Franchise Player
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How attractive is the oil sands product in the world market? Honest question.
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04-30-2025, 10:40 AM
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#1060
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Alberta shocks nation with same election results they’ve turned out since 1958
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CALGARY – In a truly unexpected turn of events, Alberta has stunned voters across Canada by voting exactly the same way they have voted in every federal election for seven consecutive decades.
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https://www.thebeaverton.com/2025/04...ut-since-1958/
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