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Old 04-29-2025, 07:41 AM   #801
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Is separatism actually a thing here? We don't even have a separatist party like BQ.
It exists but it's pretty niche. Nothing to worry about IMO.
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Old 04-29-2025, 07:44 AM   #802
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I really hope this isn't the start of a two party system in Canada. I really believe that the main reason the NDP did so bad is anyone left of the CPC voted liberal to avoid vote splitting down the left.

The us vs them mentality in the US is so toxic right now and I fear we're headed that way in Canada with the result tonight.

That's definitely a worry. The toxicity down here is because a safe district is still like 55/45 and that means that almost half the district feels like they have zero representation.


Of modern large democracies, it's just Canada, the UK, and the US still using first last the post. It's long past time for multi-mp ridings.
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Old 04-29-2025, 07:45 AM   #803
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Nenshi was on Global last night blasting the separatists and Danielle Smith for stoking the flames of western alienation and separation. Also had to clarify they the Alberta NDP is not part of the federal NDP, after this election I don't see the UCP losing anything anytime soon.
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Old 04-29-2025, 07:46 AM   #804
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Disappointing to see only one Liberal win in Calgary (and it was a photo finish). Surprised that, with all of the changes over the past couple of decades, Calgary is still a Conservative fortress.
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Old 04-29-2025, 07:58 AM   #805
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I guess all the calls for an election that PP was hearing from Canadians were actually coming from inside his riding.
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Who are we looking at? Who’s an actual good candidate? I want to join and vote.
It's crazy to have 140 seats and no leader. So there are plenty of options pending who runs. Gallant and Reid have been there forever. Chong and Lewis have run before. Does some outsider come in, Ambrose, Kenney etc....
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Disappointing to see only one Liberal win in Calgary (and it was a photo finish). Surprised that, with all of the changes over the past couple of decades, Calgary is still a Conservative fortress.
I will give Smith some credit as she does a great job blaming EVERYTHING on the federal government. She rarely, if ever, takes responsibility for anything unless its to show how she owns the libs.

That said, it's hard to believe that with all the apparent strife in the west, or at least the picture that Smith and Co paint, at no time does a conservative voter look in the mirror and see that Alberta has voted conservative since the beginning of time.

And considering that, I get a kick out of people that say the libs were in power for 9 years, time for a change.
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So, there is still no full certainty on a majority or minority government. I turned on the TV and there is barely any coverage. Quite disappointing.
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It's a new beginning for Canada. No more Trudeau, PP, and Singh which is best case scenario for Canadians as three of the worst party leaders in recent times are now out of the way. Carney may be a greasy, elite businessman but unlike Trudeau, PP, and Singh he's proven to be very competent at his craft and hopefully his economic expertise translates into politics as he was the best choice to combat what's going on in the USA. I do believe that it benefits us all to have competent leaders of all parties, even the ones you oppose so hopefully the CP and NDP can follow the lead of the Liberal party and select party leaders that are fully qualified and competent enough to provide a viable alternative to the Liberals in future elections as Canadians truly do deserve better than what we have received the last decade from parliament.
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So is PP actually going to step down? If he doesn't, do the cons still accept him as leader after losing his own seat? Hopefully there's enough sane members of that party who realize what a disaster he's been as leader to force a no confidence vote
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Oh FFS... another minority government with the NDP holding the balance of power, exactly where we were before. How the hell, after the last 18 months, do we end up in the same place?

Needed a majority here, especially given current givens.
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So, there is still no full certainty on a majority or minority government. I turned on the TV and there is barely any coverage. Quite disappointing.
I thought minority was certain. Where are you seeing uncertainty?
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If the current seat count holds, they're only 4 seats away from a majority. Will Carney try to entice at least 4 MPs (from any party) to cross the floor to secure the majority?
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This is what I am looking at: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...rity-still-in/

It seems they paused counting? Or maybe this is old news and they resumed?
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If the current seat count holds, they're only 4 seats away from a majority. Will Carney try to entice at least 4 MPs (from any party) to cross the floor to secure the majority?
We can sure as hell hope so, especially in the interim period where the CPC is leaderless.
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I'm not very knowledgeable of the power players in the NDP but I think that Julien could be a good leader. He seems smart, likeable, reasonable and has been a strong voice in committees.
Sorry I actually meant the conservatives. Wasn’t clear from the quote.
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Sorry I actually meant the conservatives. Wasn’t clear from the quote.
My choice was already mentioned and it would be Michael Chong. If it helps with Quebec votes I think Deltell would be a reasonable option as well.
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This is what I am looking at: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...rity-still-in/

It seems they paused counting? Or maybe this is old news and they resumed?
I heard on the news just a few minutes ago there are 11 seats where the Liberals are in second and enough outstanding ballots that there is at least a possibility of them flipping, though I think the probability is low for most of them.
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Oh FFS... another minority government with the NDP holding the balance of power, exactly where we were before. How the hell, after the last 18 months, do we end up in the same place?

Needed a majority here, especially given current givens.
Only if a coalition is formed. The liberals could look to any of the major parties to pass bills now and I hope they do. The ball is also in the CPCs court too, they have the choice of blindly voting no to everything or actually working with the libs to get concessions for their constituents.

A rising tide raises all ships.
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Only if a coalition is formed. The liberals could look to any of the major parties to pass bills now and I hope they do. The ball is also in the CPCs court too, they have the choice of blindly voting no to everything or actually working with the libs to get concessions for their constituents.

A rising tide raises all ships.
With PP in charge, I see them sabotaging every Liberal proposal even if they cut off their own nose in the process.

Hopefully the adults retake the Conservative leadership.
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