04-28-2025, 11:51 PM
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#721
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Originally Posted by Matty81
He won the riding in 2015 as well. Kelowna south was a more solid Conservative win 21k to 17k but I'd say it's becoming quite competitive here compared to when I first moved out, these aren't ridings the Conservatives can take for granted anymore.
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I assume many moved to Kelowna from the lower mainland.
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04-28-2025, 11:51 PM
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#722
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by Mathgod
^ This. In order to run, a candidate should be required to provide a petition with at least 500 signatures of people in the riding pledging to vote for that person.
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What a wholly undemocratic solution to a much bigger democratic problem.
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04-28-2025, 11:52 PM
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#723
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Franchise Player
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I think that was Tim Louis' riding that just flipped. I'm guessing Ruby Sahota is going to flip her riding as well still but don't see much more change coming unless Fuhr loses his very small lead in Kelowna and the Liberals will be 5 or 6 seats short of a majority.
You'd have to think in current conditions they are going to try and find a deal to create some stability, likely with the remaining NDPs in caucus. Will be interesting to see who takes over as their leader they will have a lot of power.
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04-28-2025, 11:52 PM
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#724
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: North Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Torture
85% of polls counted in Carleton.....Fanjoy lead continues to hold.
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PP has cut into it a bit unfortunately. Lead is now 1,888.
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04-28-2025, 11:52 PM
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#725
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by rubecube
Just make May the Speaker and that solves two problems.
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Yeah, but then she'd be the speaker.
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04-28-2025, 11:53 PM
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#726
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Franchise Player
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CBC is still not saying if it's a minority or majority gov't. Advanced voting was pretty much in the Libs favour and they are still counting them. Swings of 2000+ votes.
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04-28-2025, 11:54 PM
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#727
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathgod
^ This. In order to run, a candidate should be required to provide a petition with at least 500 signatures of people in the riding pledging to vote for that person.
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100 signatures isn’t enough?
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04-28-2025, 11:55 PM
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#728
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by troutman
I assume many moved to Kelowna from the lower mainland.
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Yep a huge influx of South Asians into a neighborhood here called Rutland that sits in the Kelowna central riding and that riding provincially and federally is now in play most elections. And less impactfully voting wise, there was a wave of white collar remote professionals from lower main into the more suburban areas in the South Kelowna riding.
Selfishly, I am happy that it's more competitive as we never really saw any major infrastructure projects that the swing ridings get in BC. Kamloops has always been close and it's less than half the size of Kelowna, yet has the HQs of a few govt agencies like BC Lottos and a much better invested in hospital for example.
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04-28-2025, 11:56 PM
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#729
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bizaro86
Yeah, but then she'd be the speaker.
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Yeah, but that takes her out of a position to clog up QP and debates.
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04-28-2025, 11:56 PM
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#730
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by Bill Bumface
No, they need to keep doing it until we get the promised electoral reform.
65% of Albertans voted for the Conservatives, yet the Conservatives will represent 92% of Albertans.
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Right, and last election a 1% more of Canadians voted conservative yet didn't form the government. Cons had a 1% lead in popular vote and a 12% deficit in seats. Not sure what the correct answer is
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04-28-2025, 11:58 PM
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#731
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
Right, and last election a 1% more of Canadians voted conservative yet didn't form the government. Cons had a 1% lead in popular vote and a 12% deficit in seats. Not sure what the correct answer is
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In an era where we can probably have 128-bit cryptography on peoples' phones, we could probably just have all policy determined by a referendum app
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04-28-2025, 11:58 PM
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#732
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All I can get
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I think Carney will do okay with a minority for now. The Conservatives will need to regroup, choose a new leader and follow that with a new platform.
We could be back to the polls in two years when Carney will seek a majority.
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04-28-2025, 11:58 PM
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#733
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167 now! still a couple of seats the Libs might win in QC and BC.
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04-28-2025, 11:58 PM
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#734
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by rubecube
What a wholly undemocratic solution to a much bigger democratic problem.
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How is wasting everyone's time on a pointless run that has no support behind it, democratic?
I'd argue that vote splitting is more detrimental to democracy than telling people with no support that they can't run.
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04-28-2025, 11:59 PM
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#735
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My face is a bum!
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Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
Right, and last election a 1% more of Canadians voted conservative yet didn't form the government. Cons had a 1% lead in popular vote and a 12% deficit in seats. Not sure what the correct answer is
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I think we should make use of ranked choice/instant run-off way more.
We see vote splitting really mess things up in municipal elections as well. You have two similar candidates that align with the views of the majority, and they split votes and someone representing 30% of the people squeaks in.
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04-28-2025, 11:59 PM
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#736
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
167 now! still a couple of seats the Libs might win in QC and BC.
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Do we want a liberal majority?
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04-29-2025, 12:00 AM
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#737
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
Right, and last election a 1% more of Canadians voted conservative yet didn't form the government. Cons had a 1% lead in popular vote and a 12% deficit in seats. Not sure what the correct answer is
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And the NDP had 35 less seats than they would have had under a fair representation system. We need electoral reform.
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04-29-2025, 12:02 AM
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#739
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Franchise Player
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Yeah Ruby Sahota's riding just flipped massively with the advance votes. I think if the trend keeps up a couple more ridings in Ontario like the Milton East are going to flip liberal too, but I think they will come up just short. I feel like Kelowna could still go either way as well.
If they get within 2 seats or so though they will for sure be looking for floor crossers rather than a deal with another party
Last edited by Matty81; 04-29-2025 at 12:04 AM.
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04-29-2025, 12:02 AM
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#740
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathgod
I'd argue that vote splitting is more detrimental to democracy than telling people with no support that they can't run.
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That's what they're protesting. They want PR.
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