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Old 04-28-2025, 11:51 PM   #721
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He won the riding in 2015 as well. Kelowna south was a more solid Conservative win 21k to 17k but I'd say it's becoming quite competitive here compared to when I first moved out, these aren't ridings the Conservatives can take for granted anymore.
I assume many moved to Kelowna from the lower mainland.
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Old 04-28-2025, 11:51 PM   #722
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^ This. In order to run, a candidate should be required to provide a petition with at least 500 signatures of people in the riding pledging to vote for that person.
What a wholly undemocratic solution to a much bigger democratic problem.
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Old 04-28-2025, 11:52 PM   #723
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I think that was Tim Louis' riding that just flipped. I'm guessing Ruby Sahota is going to flip her riding as well still but don't see much more change coming unless Fuhr loses his very small lead in Kelowna and the Liberals will be 5 or 6 seats short of a majority.

You'd have to think in current conditions they are going to try and find a deal to create some stability, likely with the remaining NDPs in caucus. Will be interesting to see who takes over as their leader they will have a lot of power.
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Old 04-28-2025, 11:52 PM   #724
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85% of polls counted in Carleton.....Fanjoy lead continues to hold.

PP has cut into it a bit unfortunately. Lead is now 1,888.
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Old 04-28-2025, 11:52 PM   #725
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Just make May the Speaker and that solves two problems.
Yeah, but then she'd be the speaker.
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Old 04-28-2025, 11:53 PM   #726
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CBC is still not saying if it's a minority or majority gov't. Advanced voting was pretty much in the Libs favour and they are still counting them. Swings of 2000+ votes.
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Old 04-28-2025, 11:54 PM   #727
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^ This. In order to run, a candidate should be required to provide a petition with at least 500 signatures of people in the riding pledging to vote for that person.
100 signatures isn’t enough?
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Old 04-28-2025, 11:55 PM   #728
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I assume many moved to Kelowna from the lower mainland.
Yep a huge influx of South Asians into a neighborhood here called Rutland that sits in the Kelowna central riding and that riding provincially and federally is now in play most elections. And less impactfully voting wise, there was a wave of white collar remote professionals from lower main into the more suburban areas in the South Kelowna riding.

Selfishly, I am happy that it's more competitive as we never really saw any major infrastructure projects that the swing ridings get in BC. Kamloops has always been close and it's less than half the size of Kelowna, yet has the HQs of a few govt agencies like BC Lottos and a much better invested in hospital for example.
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Yeah, but then she'd be the speaker.
Yeah, but that takes her out of a position to clog up QP and debates.
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No, they need to keep doing it until we get the promised electoral reform.

65% of Albertans voted for the Conservatives, yet the Conservatives will represent 92% of Albertans.
Right, and last election a 1% more of Canadians voted conservative yet didn't form the government. Cons had a 1% lead in popular vote and a 12% deficit in seats. Not sure what the correct answer is
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Right, and last election a 1% more of Canadians voted conservative yet didn't form the government. Cons had a 1% lead in popular vote and a 12% deficit in seats. Not sure what the correct answer is
In an era where we can probably have 128-bit cryptography on peoples' phones, we could probably just have all policy determined by a referendum app
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I think Carney will do okay with a minority for now. The Conservatives will need to regroup, choose a new leader and follow that with a new platform.

We could be back to the polls in two years when Carney will seek a majority.
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167 now! still a couple of seats the Libs might win in QC and BC.
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What a wholly undemocratic solution to a much bigger democratic problem.
How is wasting everyone's time on a pointless run that has no support behind it, democratic?

I'd argue that vote splitting is more detrimental to democracy than telling people with no support that they can't run.
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Right, and last election a 1% more of Canadians voted conservative yet didn't form the government. Cons had a 1% lead in popular vote and a 12% deficit in seats. Not sure what the correct answer is
I think we should make use of ranked choice/instant run-off way more.

We see vote splitting really mess things up in municipal elections as well. You have two similar candidates that align with the views of the majority, and they split votes and someone representing 30% of the people squeaks in.
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167 now! still a couple of seats the Libs might win in QC and BC.
Do we want a liberal majority?
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Right, and last election a 1% more of Canadians voted conservative yet didn't form the government. Cons had a 1% lead in popular vote and a 12% deficit in seats. Not sure what the correct answer is
And the NDP had 35 less seats than they would have had under a fair representation system. We need electoral reform.
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PP making a comeback, unfortunately.
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Yeah Ruby Sahota's riding just flipped massively with the advance votes. I think if the trend keeps up a couple more ridings in Ontario like the Milton East are going to flip liberal too, but I think they will come up just short. I feel like Kelowna could still go either way as well.

If they get within 2 seats or so though they will for sure be looking for floor crossers rather than a deal with another party

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I'd argue that vote splitting is more detrimental to democracy than telling people with no support that they can't run.
That's what they're protesting. They want PR.
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