Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Early voting is becoming much more common. In the 80s, 95 per cent of votes were cast on election day. In the 2021 federal election 35 per cent of votes were cast early. And the first day of early voting in this election set records, so we’ll likely see that number rise.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ele...ting-1.7514390

Early voting makes things more difficult for elections Canada. It’s much easier to plan and staff for a single election day than for many days spread over weeks, when turnout on any given day might vary dramatically.

I'm hoping to get there and vote today. Election day voting is just getting too difficult in general, work will be a write-off for me the next few weeks as well. If I don't go today there's a good chance I won't be able to go at all.

Still a toss up for who to vote for. I really want to find a way to vote Liberal this time but they just keep shooting themselves in the foot with some of their promises. They would have had me if they just kept their mouths shut. Problem is the CPC is the same. Stick to the basics and the issues of today (US relations and national security).

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Party Elephant

It's pretty clear which posters drink exclusively from the firehose of right wing Twitter. It must be exhausting reading short punchy rage bait all day every day.

The baffling part is every time they go to their "news" sites they know they are being misled, but do it anyway. Why do you want to be lied to? I just don't understand how that's a choice you willingly make every day.


I mostly mean CP posters, not people in general, specifically because there is no way you can read these threads and not be fully aware they are lying to you.

[TorqueDog]

^It’s just good ol’ disinformation, and it’s made for export to people who aren’t particularly well-versed in current issues facing the country (or, indeed, the world), or whatever subject they happen to be sowing distrust over.

It’s the same formula used for all of it. I had to educate my mom today on some whack job quack out of Newport Beach who makes Facebook reels about the ‘dangers’ of vaccines because she shared one about an infant vaccine today. Did you know the documentation in an infant vaccine recommends having EPINEPHRINE on hand?! It’s like they KNOW you WILL get sick from it! … It can’t possibly be that having epinephrine on-hand in the event a patient is unknowingly allergic to something in a vaccine is standard practice, and this is just meant to scare laypeople who would never ever be expected to read medical documentation geared toward practitioners in the first place.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by direwolf

I hate to break it to some of the Conservatives here, but Canada is essentially a centre-left country, which is exactly what people are voting for. We’re also facing an economic crisis like we’ve never seen before, and Canadians just want an intelligent mature adult with real world experience to lead us through this mess. Carney ticks all of those boxes and then some. PP is the polar opposite of all of those things and people just don’t trust him.

For example, my parents who have pretty much voted conservative their entire lives are switching to the Liberals this time. The reason? They just don’t trust PP, they’re completely disgusted by the socially regressive Maple MAGA crap that has taken over that party, and that they feel that Carney’s economic expertise is what’s currently needed to steer the ship in the right direction.

Lke any normal educated human would have disqualified the rightwing moron after he and deplorable Murphy Brown supported the freedumb truckers.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Absolutely. It's been a "Lost Liberal Decade". It's time for a change.

It's literally the only thing I hear whenever the CPC conversation comes up.

Woke Liberal Agenda
Carney's Investments
Same People in Caucus
GDP per Capita
National Debt
High Taxes
Trump prefers Carney

Never any mention of anything positive about the PP Conservatives

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Why do you want to be lied to?

Simply put, they have an ideology that they devote their lives to. So any time they hear or read something that conveniently aligns with their ideology, they immediately believe it to be true, regardless of whether or not it actually is. Whenever they are presented with information that conflicts with their ideology, the instantly disregard it as "fake news" or a "woke leftist conspiracy".

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by Point Blank

Can someone who supports the CPC actually give an informed summary of their platform and plan? All I hear is “liberals bad” and fighting wokeism. Very much “I have concepts of a plan” vibe.

Axe the Tax
Fix the Budget
Build the Homes
Stop the Crime
Verb the Noun
Drink the Booze
Smoke the Drugs
Screw the Whores

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Woke Liberal Agenda
Carney's Investments
Same People in Caucus
GDP per Capita
National Debt
High Taxes
Trump prefers Carney

Never any mention of anything positive about the PP Conservatives

Saw a campaign sign for PP that read “Poilievre 2025: Bring it home”

Not even trying to convey some positive, inspiring, forward looking message or anything that points to some kind of message. Just “win the election.”

Conservatives marching down this path with no ability or interest to look inward and instead just whining and blaming everybody else seems like a big mistake to me. Guess we’ll see shortly if ignorance is actually bliss.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Saw a campaign sign for PP that read “Poilievre 2025: Bring it home”

Not even trying to convey some positive, inspiring, forward looking message or anything that points to some kind of message. Just “win the election.”

Conservatives marching down this path with no ability or interest to look inward and instead just whining and blaming everybody else seems like a big mistake to me. Guess we’ll see shortly if ignorance is actually bliss.

We’ve already seen how it played out provincially. Blatant ignorance to what’s going on.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

This whole election seems so slanted in favor of the Liberals. The campaign starting with Carney as PM and able to look Pri ministerial in dealing with Trump. The election campaign period made as short as possible so the public don't get to see what Carney's investments are, the minimal number of debates so Carney's poor French doesn't adversely affect the Quebec vote, the early voting to take advantage of the polls in the event of a late swing, etc.

If Carney is elected and nothing changes, then I hope his time in office is as short as possible.

The campaign started in 2022 with Poilievre as opposition leader ramping up "#### Trudeau" and "Axe the Tax" rhetoric.

[Roughneck]

Poilievre and the Conservatives spending years calling for Trudeau to resign and an election to be called only to be caught off guard by Trudeau resigning and an election being called really does speak volumes about him and the party as a whole. They just aren’t very good.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Simply put, they have an ideology that they devote their lives to. So any time they hear or read something that conveniently aligns with their ideology, they immediately believe it to be true, regardless of whether or not it actually is. Whenever they are presented with information that conflicts with their ideology, the instantly disregard it as "fake news" or a "woke leftist conspiracy".

It’s the new religion. There’s starting to be research into how secularism plays a role in extreme polemics. It’s not just a right phenomenon though. There are plenty of people on the left that are immovable regardless of what facts you present them with.

In fact I would say that the erosion of trust in experts started on the left.

Overall though, it’s amazing how people are evacuating the centre for extreme positions.

I don’t think there is any grand conspiracy. But I do think that there are efforts underway by state actors we once would have identified as enemies or at a minimum iffy regimes, to brew up fights and discord. At a minimum to keep us distracted, but over the last 10-15 years the goal may have changed because of how effective a small army or trolls and bots is at pulling our societies apart.

You get way more bang for your buck fomenting civil war via social media, special interest groups, pundits and media buys than you can buying stealth fighters.

[Slava]

This guy on Twitter used ChatGPT to put together the costs for the CPC and says it’s about $60-70bn per year for the deficit. That’s with an optimistic view of $2-3bn in consulting savings and not including the roughly $19bn in defence spending to get to 2% GDP. Obviously this could be inaccurate.

Thing is, the CPC was practically begging for an election for two years and hasn’t put together a costed platform? Yet somehow they want to form government? Pretty poor showing.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1914024700683964521

[puffnstuff]

Aw man, theyre copy that guys homework...

[Amethyst]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Woke Liberal Agenda
Carney's Investments
Same People in Caucus
GDP per Capita
National Debt
High Taxes
Trump prefers Carney

Never any mention of anything positive about the PP Conservatives

And the return of plastic straws. Don't forget the straws!

[puffnstuff]

The head of Canada's Leaders' Debates Commission said he "wasn't aware" that organizations linked to Rebel News#had registered as a third-party advocacy group with Elections Canada before allowing its employees to take part in the post-debate news conferences.

Organizations, other than political parties, that want to fundraise and spend money on advertisements during the election in an effort to sway voters need to register with Elections Canada.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/reb...ates-1.7512714

Not sure if this had been posted before

[Duruss]

I hate how significant this election feels. I have a horrible sense of dread that something terrible is going to happen like in the States.

Carney is the most qualified candidate to run in my life. How could we pass on that?

[Hemi-Cuda]

I saw a house today with a Poliviere 2025 flag hanging on the door. I can somewhat understand voting conservative if you really hated Trudeau and don't trust that Carney will be different, but to simp for PP like he's Trump? I can't imagine anything more pathetic, the guy is a weasel with zero charisma who has accomplished nothing in his entire life. How sad must your life be to go out of you way to even find a flag like that, let alone hang it proudly on your house

[Drak]

Just got back from early voting. Got lucky since there wasn’t a line at my station. I was told there as mad lineups all day.

[MegaErtz]

Someone talk me out of making a massive financial mistake. It seems very obvious to me that the Liberals will win comfortably. Right now they are about -283 (bet 3 to win 1) on the online gambling sites. I have quite a bit of money on them to win the most seats already, but I'm wondering why the odds aren't bet 10 to win 1? Does anyone see this being even close to being close in terms of seats won?