Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

The plan is to balance it in three years. He is a financial and economic mastermind so there is no doubt he will get things to balance out.

hahahahahaha. I'm sure papeboy's economic plan is going to surplus in year 3! hahahahahaha



The pathetic deplorable prob won't even release his plan.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

The plan is to balance it in three years. He is a financial and economic mastermind so there is no doubt he will get things to balance out.

Well, after the advance polling is done, we’ll finally see the costed CPC plan. It’s obviously not as great as people think, otherwise you’d publish that as soon as possible. Instead we just hear about how much the Liberals are spending and how dire it is. But just think; the Conservatives a larger income tax cut ($14bn per year), and have promised a lot of spending on everything from roads are the Ring of Fire to skilled trades, housing and defence. I don’t know all the values, and maybe someone somewhere has kept track, but it all adds up.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by simmer2

130B in new spending confirmed by the Liberals, with no timeline to balance the budget. Perfect, more debt, more government, more taxes, more of the same...the worst economy in G7.

I don't understand how folks expect things to magically be different.

And Carney using fear to motivate is pathetic. Trump is going to invade, take our water, etc etc. Classic control and manipulation.

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

The plan is to balance it in three years. He is a financial and economic mastermind so there is no doubt he will get things to balance out.

So what would you cut? And how much should be cut? Why don’t want a balanced budget and should a balanced budget come at the expense of GDP growth

Most of this is pricing in a recession driven by Tarrifs. Are you pro austerity during a recession? Pro tax increase during a recession? I prefer the Kenysian approach.

Our biggest competitor is turning on the money printing machine to drive inflation we can’t control that. Austerity measures seem like the wrong choice.

The Conservative plan outside of cuts which no specifics add up to billions in new spending/taxcuts. As of now there isn’t really a material difference. Certainly not in the ballpark of making up a 60billion dollar deficit this year while making tax cuts. So any criticism needs to come along with a discussion of what your economic philosophy is in a time of recession.

[Geraldsh]

Made my mark this morning.
The returning officer told me a 6 year old came in yesterday with a ballot she made and marked herself. They directed her to the appreciation box where she proudly voted.

[Slava]

I would love to play a “Price is Right” where CPC supporters have to give the amount of debt they’re comfortable with over the next four years, before the CPC releases a costed platform.

[puffnstuff]

Con debt is different than Liberal debt....for them

[flamesfever]

This whole election seems so slanted in favor of the Liberals. The campaign starting with Carney as PM and able to look Pri ministerial in dealing with Trump. The election campaign period made as short as possible so the public don't get to see what Carney's investments are, the minimal number of debates so Carney's poor French doesn't adversely affect the Quebec vote, the early voting to take advantage of the polls in the event of a late swing, etc.

If Carney is elected and nothing changes, then I hope his time in office is as short as possible.

[Fuzz]

LOL, didn't expect the "it's not fair!" angle, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised from the crew who can't stop complaining about how unfair the country is to poor ol' Alberta who never gets a leg up. Perpetual victims. Maybe try hoping he does well for Canada?

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

This whole election seems so slanted in favor of the Liberals. The campaign starting with Carney as PM and able to look Pri ministerial in dealing with Trump. The election campaign period made as short as possible so the public don't get to see what Carney's investments are, the minimal number of debates so Carney's poor French doesn't adversely affect the Quebec vote, the early voting to take advantage of the polls in the event of a late swing, etc.

If Carney is elected and nothing changes, then I hope his time in office is as short as possible.

You will never see another Conservative Gov't ever again. 25 years of Liberal rule. but

[surferguy]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

A bunch of words

If Carney is elected more words

Good

[GGG]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

This whole election seems so slanted in favor of the Liberals. The campaign starting with Carney as PM and able to look Pri ministerial in dealing with Trump. The election campaign period made as short as possible so the public don't get to see what Carney's investments are, the minimal number of debates so Carney's poor French doesn't adversely affect the Quebec vote, the early voting to take advantage of the polls in the event of a late swing, etc.

If Carney is elected and nothing changes, then I hope his time in office is as short as possible.

On the other hand,

PP could have looked like Ford in regards to the boarder. He could have been out there calling out Trudeau for tolerating the 51st state crap. He could have teamed up with Smith and Ford to provide a unified conservative voice against Trump and against Trudeau’s handling of the crisis. Smith and PP chose not to do this and Smith positioned herself as a Trump whisperer and PP did nothing. Smith failed, PP looked inept and now the narrative is cast.

This was entirely the fault of PP and Smith. Ford secured a conservative majority by not being a moron.

Going back further, PP failed to offer the NDP anything compelling to topple the government. PP failed to take advantage of his lead. After calling for an election continuously it’s rather funny to complain about an election happening. The other thing PP didn’t do was to publicly oppose going to the polls once the 51st state and Tarrifs started. Had he said this is too important of a time to hold an election and we should wait until October before he fell behind in the polls it would have been difficult for Carney to call one. Or if he did he would have had a line of attack of carney is just in this for himself.

Why are you still going on about what stocks he holds. We know what he will have in there. A #### ton of Brookfield and all kinds of tax optimized stuff. None of that will be surprising. Being stuck on that particular issue really shows that your media sources are somewhat suspect. You should look at how others are shaping the narrative around you.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

This whole election seems so slanted in favor of the Liberals. The campaign starting with Carney as PM and able to look Pri ministerial in dealing with Trump. The election campaign period made as short as possible so the public don't get to see what Carney's investments are, the minimal number of debates so Carney's poor French doesn't adversely affect the Quebec vote, the early voting to take advantage of the polls in the event of a late swing, etc.

If Carney is elected and nothing changes, then I hope his time in office is as short as possible.

It's feeling slanted because only one party accepted this was a race to the centre, despite that being clear as day for months now.

I don't know how many times it needed to be said before you lay some blame on your party instead of the voters, voting for exactly what they asked for.

Look at how Premier Ford responded to Trump tarrifs; it could have been done and still been conservative. You only have your party to blame, but still choose to fall back on conspiracies.

[Jimmy Stang]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

This whole election seems so slanted in favor of the Liberals. The campaign starting with Carney as PM and able to look Pri ministerial in dealing with Trump. The election campaign period made as short as possible so the public don't get to see what Carney's investments are, the minimal number of debates so Carney's poor French doesn't adversely affect the Quebec vote, the early voting to take advantage of the polls in the event of a late swing, etc.

If Carney is elected and nothing changes, then I hope his time in office is as short as possible.

Since the PCs and Reformers united (or, rather, the Reformers took over the PC party), the party has pulled too far to the right to be palatable to enough Canadians. That’s the real issue. The Liberals have claimed the centre, and the Conservatives’ hard-right base won’t allow them to moderate.

An actual “Progressive Conservative” party probably would’ve shortened the Trudeau era by at least a term.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Just cast my vote against PP. Some old fart in line crying that he can’t write get that ####### out.

The conservative voters are real losers. Trudeau is gone you idiots. Carney is kicking your ass now

[Point Blank]

Can someone who supports the CPC actually give an informed summary of their platform and plan? All I hear is “liberals bad” and fighting wokeism. Very much “I have concepts of a plan” vibe.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Point Blank

Can someone who supports the CPC actually give an informed summary of their platform and plan? All I hear is “liberals bad” and fighting wokeism. Very much “I have concepts of a plan” vibe.

Yes.

We can’t have 4 more years of Justin Trudeau.

[direwolf]

I hate to break it to some of the Conservatives here, but Canada is essentially a centre-left country, which is exactly what people are voting for. We’re also facing an economic crisis like we’ve never seen before, and Canadians just want an intelligent mature adult with real world experience to lead us through this mess. Carney ticks all of those boxes and then some. PP is the polar opposite of all of those things and people just don’t trust him.

For example, my parents who have pretty much voted conservative their entire lives are switching to the Liberals this time. The reason? They just don’t trust PP, they’re completely disgusted by the socially regressive Maple MAGA crap that has taken over that party, and that they feel that Carney’s economic expertise is what’s currently needed to steer the ship in the right direction.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

This whole election seems so slanted in favor of the Liberals. The campaign starting with Carney as PM and able to look Pri ministerial in dealing with Trump. The election campaign period made as short as possible so the public don't get to see what Carney's investments are, the minimal number of debates so Carney's poor French doesn't adversely affect the Quebec vote, the early voting to take advantage of the polls in the event of a late swing, etc.

If Carney is elected and nothing changes, then I hope his time in office is as short as possible.

Ok Boomer

[Party Elephant]

It's pretty clear which posters drink exclusively from the firehose of right wing Twitter. It must be exhausting reading short punchy rage bait all day every day.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Point Blank

Can someone who supports the CPC actually give an informed summary of their platform and plan? All I hear is “liberals bad” and fighting wokeism. Very much “I have concepts of a plan” vibe.

Absolutely. It's been a "Lost Liberal Decade". It's time for a change.

It's literally the only thing I hear whenever the CPC conversation comes up.