2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Otto-matic]

Originally Posted by Nelson

I feel very disappointed. We sold last year when prices were low, because that’s when we had all the UFAs. And we’re not selling our most marketable asset of Andersson this year when prices are very high, because we’re fighting for the playoffs. If we now go on to trade futures for depth, miss the playoffs or get destroyed in the first round and not finish top-10, and then sign Andersson to play until age 37, this season will be the quintessential Flames’ season.

Or maybe we're not just getting the value in Andersson who isn't a UFA this summer and we don't need to panic trade him to get assets.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Bonded

They also have the second lowest goals for in the league. They are holding on with a great goalie and surprisingly good defense from a rag tag group.

100%.

There are up to 10 teams below the Flames that are better on paper.

They’re barely scoring and they have 3 top 4 defencemen and the rest were 6/7 and AHL guys before the Flames picked them up.

This isn’t a team that should be holding a playoff spot. But they are. I just don’t know what people want them to do about it aside from things they’d be stupid to do.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by traptor

Are you disagreeing with the premise though?

They obviously didn't want to do a legit rebuild. They wanted to keep this team competitive and atleast in the middle. And they've made trades to do that.

That is what happened but you have to squint pretty hard to think it was their plan. A team that actually wants to remain competitive doesn't go into the season with the second most cap in the league. The Flames had a bottom ten forward roster (is bottom two), a bottom 10 defense group (playing way better than expected), and a total question mark in goal.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I'm happy with this deadline so far b/c I love seeing the west load up.

Removing any Flames related business from the equation, this is the perfect trade deadline. All the West contenders loaded up which means the Oilers chances of going deep in the playoffs are significantly reduced and all these teams mortgaging the future should paves the way for their declines to coincide hopefully with the ascension of the Flames at the end of the decade.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by traptor

Are you disagreeing with the premise though?

They obviously didn't want to do a legit rebuild. They wanted to keep this team competitive and atleast in the middle. And they've made trades to do that.

I think they made trades wanting the results to peak by the 2027-28 season. Conroy brought in many, many prospects and picks, and the Flames have been drafting lots, and will have 4 more first round picks drafted before the start of the 2027 season.

What they haven't done, is made trades that actively sabotage the team, forcing them to bottom out. The reality is that the Flames are not an Anderson or Kadri away from being a bottom 5 team.

The Flames management, Media and fans, all expected this team to suck, the only people who didn't are the coaches and the team. They are winning playing commited team d fence and getting world class goaltending.

[sekimet]

Like always, the flames are just unlucky that last year was a buyers market when they had a bunch of assets to move, and a sellers market when now they don't. I get peoples disappointment, but id rather the flames do nothing then throw away picks for rentals or players that don't help them long term going forward.

The flames had an excellent 2024 draft, I'm just going to put some faith that they will continue to make value picks and improve the team through the drafts in 2025/2026/2027. They have an absolute super star in wolf, and what looks like another one in parekh. I'm OK with being patient and letting the younger core play meaningful games and improve hopefully going into the playoffs.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Bonded

That is what happened but you have to squint pretty hard to think it was their plan. A team that actually wants to remain competitive doesn't go into the season with the second most cap in the league. The Flames had a bottom ten forward roster (is bottom two), a bottom 10 defense group (playing way better than expected), and a total question mark in goal.

Yeah lets see these posters preseason predictions

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

100%.

There are up to 10 teams below the Flames that are better on paper.

They’re barely scoring and they have 3 top 4 defencemen and the rest were 6/7 and AHL guys before the Flames picked them up.

This isn’t a team that should be holding a playoff spot. But they are. I just don’t know what people want them to do about it aside from things they’d be stupid to do.

My hope/expectation would be that they’re honest with themselves.

And if they’re honest with themselves we have backed into a playoff spot. If teams are coming calling on some of our vets, I’d hope that’s seriously being explored, especially given the inflated prices.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Yeah lets see these posters preseason predictions

I for sure thought they would be a bottom 5-10 team.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Yeah lets see these posters preseason predictions

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=196987

[kevman]

Call me crazy but I'm kind of happy to see Calgary just ride out this team this year and re-evaluate in the off season. In a perfect world they wouldn't swap any players and instead grab some picks for facilitating trades with retention spots.

Keep the team together for a potential playoff birth.
Don't give up any future assets for a likely 1st round exit.
Grab some picks for using cap space and retention.

That would be a great day IMO.

[Shazam]

Flames have poor D depth at the moment, losing Andersson I think would make a material difference in the standings.

Kadri is meh. It would be good to trade him just for the cap space but whatever.

I think next year they'll be a lot worse. I think Backlund and Andersson will be gone for sure, all the remaining vets are just that much older.

[Sec214]

Hearing things are still active.

Now that Rants is done, teams will be moving to next options.

Flames are not wanting to offloading assets for short term needs, the Connie plan has not shifted as stated by him on TSN.

Desperation Hour is coming.

This is where guys get moved for 1st , 2nd and 3rd. or Phillip Forsberg steals happen.

[PaperBagger'14]

If Conroy opts out of trading our more valuable players today I get the feeling he’s thinking one of 2 things:

1) This team is good and is ready to win a significant amount in the playoffs or,
2) Trade returns will be better in the summer

I don’t agree with either of those points, but by doing nothing today he is making a big statement about this team.

[Tbull8]

Imagine if we got a Forsberg type return for Coleman at the deadline

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

If Conroy opts out of trading our more valuable players today I get the feeling he’s thinking one of 2 things:

1) This team is good and is ready to win a significant amount in the playoffs or,
2) Trade returns will be better in the summer

I don’t agree with either of those points, but by doing nothing today he is making a big statement about this team.

To me it's more option 3.

This is the first time he has not been under the gun with expiring contracts, so he is going to stand firm and show the he doesn't break under pressure giving players away.

Every GM in the league were vultures over the Flames corpse the last two seasons, Conroy worked from a very weak bargaining position.

[BrownDrake]

A GM that is in win now mode wants to phone another GM that is looking at an asset that could disappear at July 1st, that’s the only leverage a buyer has. Any of the UFAs Calgary has right now are likely more useful given our position in the standings and the message it would send the room. Maybe Rasmus is in play if we are 6-7 points out of a playoff spot but that’s just not the case.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Hearing things are still active.

Now that Rants is done, teams will be moving to next options.

Flames are not wanting to offloading assets for short term needs, the Connie plan has not shifted as stated by him on TSN.

Desperation Hour is coming.

This is where guys get moved for 1st , 2nd and 3rd. or Phillip Forsberg steals happen.

Please please please blessed baby Jobu! Ras for two 1sts and prospect.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Yeah lets see these posters preseason predictions

We predicted, reasonably, that the team wouldn't be good. But, the team has overperformed. We all actually agree on this, there is no dispute. Not sure why you think there is, but I have some guesses.

The team is overperforming. But, they're still not a good team, by basically any measure.

What people are concerned about is that, instead of being rational and deciding to keep on making trades like Andersson, like Sharangovich, like Coleman, maybe even like Kadri, the team is pretty evidently focused on trying to make the playoffs.

Making the playoffs doesn't matter to anyone outside of flames ownership, who see $ at playoff revenue.

We will get pumped in 4 games. Almost guaranteed. Then we will be worse off going into a critical offseason for the franchise. Some people even on the Management Support side seem to admit that it's likely the team is going to be worse next season than this season. Likely trending down a couple years as our current top performers continue to age and trend down themselves. We have no real talent pipeline outside of Parekh. Wolf is an RFA in 2026- if we fizz out pre playoffs or in 4 games, then have a worse season, what does that show Wolf about our serious chances of being a competitor as he peaks in his development? I would be extremely concerned about that. Maybe he pushes for a short bridge to UFA if we can't show good progress.

[PuckSlap]

Are the flames are a point where they either make it in and get eliminated in the 1st round, or just miss by 2 points and pick 19th.

Why not pull the trigger and try and make something happen? If we’re only going to be stuck in the middle, as usual.