2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread - Page 605 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

FlameyMcFlameFace · 03-07-2025, 11:21 AM

With Rantanen signing in Dallas, I wonder if that changes anything for Conroy this morning in terms of what trades he will make?

CFO · 03-07-2025, 11:22 AM

Offseason - cap goes up - be a good time to do trades as well.

traptor · 03-07-2025, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

Lol you are here acting like Eyore and conceeding the forseeable future with no improvement. Meanwhile all those things I said.

I'm saying I don't love the path they're taking, because to me they've been taking steps to churn over the roster while trying to stay in the middle lane. Clearly you don't understand that view I guess.

Wolf is really great though and it's nice we have 4 1sts over the next two years, even if they're bottom half 1sts.

BrownDrake · 03-07-2025, 11:22 AM

I think there’s a lot of people on this board that should start cheering for Buffalo, Chicago and San Jose, lots of shiny new toys and high draft picks. Scorched earth tank ain’t happening here, management has been pretty honest with everyone, Conroy reiterated today, said 3-5 years is his timeline which I love to here, there’s no deviation from their plan, we just overachieved a bit this year and the Montreal 1st is history, no sense worrying about that, that’s a legacy deal and one that I don’t believe Conroy does.

dino7c · 03-07-2025, 11:23 AM

People were crying about the lack of a Markstom trade last deadline too...turned out okay

Bingo Jr. · 03-07-2025, 11:24 AM

I trust Conroy.

Nelson · 03-07-2025, 11:24 AM

I feel very disappointed. We sold last year when prices were low, because that’s when we had all the UFAs. And we’re not selling our most marketable asset of Andersson this year when prices are very high, because we’re fighting for the playoffs. If we now go on to trade futures for depth, miss the playoffs or get destroyed in the first round and not finish top-10, and then sign Andersson to play until age 37, this season will be the quintessential Flames’ season.

GioforPM · 03-07-2025, 11:24 AM

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I get the sentiment that the Flames are shy of a 1C, and that needs to be addressed.

What I don't understand is how selling Kadri and Anderson for very late 1st round pick is going to solve the problem.

Unless they think that Andersson and Kadri are so good that they are keeping this team afloat, while somehow at the same time not being good enough to help the team win. IDK. The Flames pick will not be top ten unless wolf gets hurt, benched or traded.

I think selling Kadri is not even a realistic consideration.

The Andersson thing I think is driven by a lot of posters' fear that not trading him now inevitably means the Flames are extending him. Which isn't true or even consistent with what Conroy has done.

I just think Conroy knows what he wants to get for any particular player and doesn't take a lesser deal unless his hand is really forced.

Monahammer · 03-07-2025, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

People were crying about the lack of a Markstom trade last deadline too...turned out okay

That's the point. The Flames are always settling for OK when they could try and make tougher, and sometimes riskier, plays to get into good-great status.

But no, the franchise and ownership are very comfortable being OK at all times.

dino7c · 03-07-2025, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by traptor

I'm saying I don't love the path they're taking, because to me they've been taking steps to churn over the roster while trying to stay in the middle lane. Clearly you don't understand that view I guess.

Wolf is really great though and it's nice we have 4 1sts over the next two years, even if they're bottom half 1sts.

What steps have they made to try to stay in the middle?

Bonded · 03-07-2025, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

People were crying about the lack of a Markstom trade last deadline too...turned out okay

Yup, after that one I am way more relaxed if Andersson doesn't get traded right now and I was never expecting Kadri to move given his contract. Kadri is an offseason trade if it happens. I think the only trade today that people can be bummed about is if they would have swapped Zary for Cozens. I wouldn't have so I don't care.

traptor · 03-07-2025, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

People were crying about the lack of a Markstom trade last deadline too...turned out okay

I mean it's a speculation forum.

The whole point is to speculate and no one can predict the future.

Conroy could make some amazing moves still. Maybe they happen in the offseason.

I think it's still fine to talk what-ifs.

TrentCrimmIndependent · 03-07-2025, 11:26 AM

yawn.

PepsiFree · 03-07-2025, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Monahammer

The point is very, very obvious. Teams with good goalies can still have bad standings results and have reasonable shots at the lottery.

Since the start of last season the Flames have traded their top center, a top six winger, three of their top five defencemen, and their number one goaltender.

What more would you like them to do?

savardandjokinen · 03-07-2025, 11:27 AM

Royle, Sec, Diss, any small updates?

dino7c · 03-07-2025, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Monahammer

That's the point. The Flames are always settling for OK when they could try and make tougher, and sometimes riskier, plays to get into good-great status.

But no, the franchise and ownership are very comfortable being OK at all times.

I was being sarcastic, the Markstom.deal was great. Bahl and a 1st that is looking better by the day.

ResAlien · 03-07-2025, 11:28 AM

Ugh I can't decide if I want to be livid at the lack of deadline deals made by the flames so far or if I want to ride my moral high horse and admonish fans who disagree while telling them to cheer for someone else if they don't like it. Why can't everything be a simple binary choice?

Badgers Nose · 03-07-2025, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Monahammer

That's the point. The Flames are always settling for OK when they could try and make tougher, and sometimes riskier, plays to get into good-great status.

But no, the franchise and ownership are very comfortable being OK at all times.

Markstrom trade was a good trade, not just OK.

We got a young top pair D and a pick for a goalie we were almost all desperate to get rid of.

TheIronMaiden · 03-07-2025, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

I think selling Kadri is not even a realistic consideration.

The Andersson thing I think is driven by a lot of posters' fear that not trading him now inevitably means the Flames are extending him. Which isn't true or even consistent with what Conroy has done.

I just think Conroy knows what he wants to get for any particular player and doesn't take a lesser deal unless his hand is really forced.

Given that the Flames have done a good job Identifying Bhal and to a lesser degree Sharangovich I agree with you on the bolded.

Conroy doesn't want just any player in return, he wants to bring in sure things.

traptor · 03-07-2025, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

What steps have they made to try to stay in the middle?

Sharangovich, Miromanov, Bahl, Kuzmenko, Mantha Frost and Farabee are all moves to keep us afloat and try and to see if they could speed up a retool.

Mid 20s guys, maybe underutilized with some upside.

I'm not saying they're bad deals. Some were good value. I don't agree with the overarching strategy though. But I think they intentionally target early to mid 20s guys. They've publicly said as much.