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					Originally Posted by  PepsiFree
					 
				 
				Since the start of last season the Flames have traded their top center, a top six winger, three of their top five defencemen, and their number one goaltender. 
 
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They also have the second lowest goals for in the league. They are holding on with a great goalie and surprisingly good defense from a rag tag group.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-07-2025, 12:29 PM
			
			
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				Since the start of last season the Flames have traded their top center, a top six winger, three of their top five defencemen, and their number one goaltender. 
 
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Obviously that one Andersson trade would lead them to a bottom five finish.
 
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It's funny that the same people are saying (a) Andersson is not very good; (b) Andersson would net a high price and (c) without Andersson the Flames would tank.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-07-2025, 12:29 PM
			
			
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			I'm happy with this deadline so far b/c I love seeing the west load up.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-07-2025, 12:29 PM
			
			
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			03-07-2025, 12:30 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  savardandjokinen
					 
				 
				Royle, Sec, Diss, any small updates? 
			
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Ferraro has drawn interest, Craig isn't looking to pay a hefty price though. 
Calgary was in on Cozens right up until the move was made, Flames wouldn't part ways with Zary who was a must in the return for Buffalo. 
No BIG offers on Rasmus at this point, doesn't mean Calgary is going to resign him in the summer - Could move him then. 
Shut down the AVS trade for Kadri, player wants to be here. 
Teams have called on Pospisil, Flames aren't going to move him for a 3rd/4th round pick though
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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					Originally Posted by  traptor
					 
				 
				Sharangovich, Miromanov, Bahl, Kuzmenko, Mantha Frost and Farabee are all moves to keep us afloat and try and to see if they could speed up a retool. 
 
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Lol Kuzmenko, dude just stop...he was a cap dump needed for a first and prospect and was moved for a younger player.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			03-07-2025, 12:31 PM
			
			
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			Flames aren't doing anything. The prices are too high for rentals, dont want to sell players in the midst of a playoff berth
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-07-2025, 12:32 PM
			
			
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				I feel very disappointed. We sold last year when prices were low, because that’s when we had all the UFAs. And we’re not selling our most marketable asset of Andersson this year when prices are very high, because we’re fighting for the playoffs. If we now go on to trade futures for depth, miss the playoffs or get destroyed in the first round and not finish top-10, and then sign Andersson to play until age 37, this season will be the quintessential Flames’ season. 
			
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But according to Royle9 this morning, it sounds like the value for Andersson isn't there.  If teams are going to overpay and give the Flames a haul, then yes Conroy should be considering it.  If they're not there's no reason to move him as he's not a pending UFA.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-07-2025, 12:32 PM
			
			
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				I'm happy with this deadline so far b/c I love seeing the west load up. 
			
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and depleting futures. also fine.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Ugh I can't decide if I want to be livid at the lack of deadline deals made by the flames so far or if I want to ride my moral high horse and admonish fans who disagree while telling them to cheer for someone else if they don't like it. Why can't everything be a simple binary choice? 
			
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I think when people really settle down they will understand we didn’t really have the hot commodities this year.
 
No one stepped up to pay the big prices for any of our guys. So we keep them.
 
GMBT started this country club and some of the members (Huby, Kadri) will be here until the very last day of their memberships, as is their right.
 
Conroy will still be here when those guys are gone - he has to make sure there’s no self-inflicted mess to clean up between now and then.
 
Expect Flames to be a bubble team for the next 5 years at least. That’s the product on offer, don’t like it then buy a DAL jersey.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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				Lol Kuzmenko, dude just stop 
			
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Your right I will stop with you.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-07-2025, 12:33 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Nelson
					 
				 
				I feel very disappointed. We sold last year when prices were low, because that’s when we had all the UFAs. And we’re not selling our most marketable asset of Andersson this year when prices are very high, because we’re fighting for the playoffs. If we now go on to trade futures for depth, miss the playoffs or get destroyed in the first round and not finish top-10, and then sign Andersson to play until age 37, this season will be the quintessential Flames’ season. 
			
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I get your POV, but we don't even know what the offers are for Anderson. So let's not overreact.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-07-2025, 12:34 PM
			
			
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				Sharangovich, Miromanov, Bahl, Kuzmenko, Mantha Frost and Farabee are all moves to keep us afloat and try and to see if they could speed up a retool. 
 
Mid 20s guys, maybe underutilized with some upside. 
			
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 Mantha and Kuzemenko were obviously brought in as trade bait. 
 
Miromanov was a sweetener in a bitter deal where Hannifin forced the Flames hand.  I don't think  he is a guy they targeted more than accepted.
 
Otherwise, everyone you mentioned in under 26, Bhal especially is already a stud at 24.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-07-2025, 12:35 PM
			
			
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				I think selling Kadri is not even a realistic consideration.   
 
The Andersson thing I think is driven by a lot of posters' fear that not trading him now inevitably means the Flames are extending him.  Which isn't true or even consistent with what Conroy has done.   
 
I just think Conroy knows what he wants to get for any particular player and doesn't take a lesser deal unless his hand is really forced. 
			
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My only issue is Anderson. I do t want to re-sign him at $8x8. Now if you are correct and flames won’t go to that number then they will trade him in summer. The problem are the prices going to be as insane as they are right now? Also a lot of the teams that you would think Anderson would be interested in signing an extension with are going to have blow their wad on this deadline not leaving much for flames. I get they can trade him to every team but 6, the problem is he’s not going to sign an extension with just anybody. Then you are looking at rental prices if he doesn’t get to go where he wants. I have severe doubts rental prices would be this high next year.
 
And yes we don’t know what conroy wants for Anderson . I just hope they are realistic . If he’s trying to sell Anderson as a #1 then he’s well off. At best Anderson is a #2 and I feel he is more of a 2nd pairing guy.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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It was a terrible point...the Flames didnt get Kuzmenko to speed up a rebuild use your head.  Vancouver needed to shed cap and gave us a 1st and prospect
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I think the Flames thought there was a player with Miro.  
They were wrong. It happens. 
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			03-07-2025, 12:36 PM
			
			
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				Mantha and Kuzemenko were obviously brought in as trade bait.  
 
Miromanov was a sweetener in a bitter deal where Hannifin forced the Flames hand.  I don't think  he is a guy they targeted more than accepted. 
 
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Are you disagreeing with the premise though?
 
They obviously didn't want to do a legit rebuild. They wanted to keep this team competitive and atleast in the middle. And they've made trades to do that.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-07-2025, 12:37 PM
			
			
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				Mantha and Kuzemenko were obviously brought in as trade bait.  
 
Miromanov was a sweetener in a bitter deal where Hannifin forced the Flames hand.  I don't think  he is a guy they targeted more than accepted. 
 
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Times 1000x people want to make stuff up to be mad about
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			03-07-2025, 12:38 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  traptor
					 
				 
				Sharangovich, Miromanov, Bahl, Kuzmenko, Mantha Frost and Farabee are all moves to keep us afloat and try and to see if they could speed up a retool. 
 
Mid 20s guys, maybe underutilized with some upside. 
 
I'm not saying they're bad deals. Some were good value. I don't agree with the overarching strategy though. But I think they intentionally target early to mid 20s guys. They've publicly said as much. 
			
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Yep, disappointed with the ownership/management, but I am every year.
 
And they will always sell tickets regardless of how in the middle we stay. People like Dino will always defend our direction no matter what.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-07-2025, 12:38 PM
			
			
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				It was a terrible point...the Flames didnt get Kuzmenko to speed up a rebuild use your head.  Vancouver needed to shed cap and gave us a 1st and prospect 
			
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Man go through the all the threads from the last year.
 
Tons of poster thought Kuzmenko could be a serious top 6 offensive threat.
 
Yeah he was part of the trade for cap reasons. But I'm sure flames management also saw some serious potential there. 
And they really did not want to bottom out. They've literally said as much. They want to stay competitive and in the middle of things.
 
You're so black and white in all your posts. 
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