[Trade] Nelson (50% ret), Dafour to Avs for Ritchie, Kylington, 26 or 27 1st, cond 28 3rd

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Markstrom's wasn't. I don't think his value changes all that much if they are targeting teams that want to sign him to an extension

Last year's deadline was a buyer's market. And goalies can be a bit different.

[MrMike]

People missing the fact they retained 50% on Nelson. Can't see the Flames retaining for the remainder of Kadris contract.

[delayedreflex]

Originally Posted by traptor

I mean you don't know that he's listening to offers at all. All the legit insiders have said Conroy is not willing to move any of those guys.

We have 2/4 of our forum insiders saying he is somewhat listening but not seriously. The others say he is not fielding offers.


Theres a pretty solid change he's not listening to offers on these guys.

Everyone yesterday said that the Islanders weren’t interested in moving Brock Nelson either (as illogical as that seemed). I don’t think there’s really such a thing as refusing to listen to offers - what it really means is that Conroy will only consider moving guys like Kadri for a sufficiently high price. If there is high demand for the player, the offers will come whether you say you’re listening to them or not.

It is certainly debatable whether the Avs may have paid a similar price for Kadri if Conroy were actively shopping him to them - my gut says only if there was significant salary retention on Calgary’s side, which is a tougher situation than with Nelson given the term left on Kadri’s contract.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by MrMike

People missing the fact they retained 50% on Nelson. Can't see the Flames retaining for the remainder of Kadris contract.

Yeah that is a huge factor in the return.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Don't know how you can come to that conclusion - 2 playoff runs with him at a crazy low price is better than one.

And it is clearly a seller's market right now.

Yeah but it's only playoff teams who will covet him now. So if a team destined to send you a 20 to 24 pick now sends that a medocre prospect and stacks on 3rds...it might have less overall return than say a team like Utah could offer in the summer if their 26 first ends up being the 17th overall pick in a stronger draft class.

So it's pretty dynamic in terms of what is the better return. Getting 7 "assets" is not always great if none of them really work out. Longer term outlooks on picks have more risk/reward...but the lost time is valuable in a business where it's likely you'll get fired one day.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by delayedreflex

Everyone yesterday said that the Islanders weren’t interested in moving Brock Nelson either (as illogical as that seemed).

Nelson did turn down a contract extension with the Isles so they obviously didnt want to risk losing him for nothing