03-06-2025, 10:35 PM
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#41
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Originally Posted by gvitaly
Where were those prices, and buyers when we were sellers last year?!
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Vancouver says hello
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03-06-2025, 10:35 PM
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#42
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Canada 02
Pretty similar to the return for Lindholm
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Not really, Ritchie is a waaaaaaaaayyy better prospect than Bruz and Flames had to take a cap dump. This is a far superior return to Lindholm trade.
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03-06-2025, 10:35 PM
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#43
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Enormous trade. What a haul by the Islanders. Ritchie is a stud. Avs going all in to win. I could see Dallas making a big pickup tomorrow to match it considering that’s a likely 1st round matchup.
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03-06-2025, 10:38 PM
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#44
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by OILFAN #81
Enormous trade. What a haul by the Islanders. Ritchie is a stud. Avs going all in to win. I could see Dallas making a big pickup tomorrow to match it considering that’s a likely 1st round matchup.
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This is Conroys chance……
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03-06-2025, 10:38 PM
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#45
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Would Colorado have offered that for Kadri?
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03-06-2025, 10:40 PM
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#46
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by D as in David
Would Colorado have offered that for Kadri?
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One would think since Nelson is a rental
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03-06-2025, 10:43 PM
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#47
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Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Originally Posted by Sofa GM
One would think since Nelson is a rental
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I don’t know
a rental maybe better than Kadri’s contract considering his age
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03-06-2025, 10:43 PM
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#48
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Originally Posted by Sofa GM
This is Conroys chance……
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How? No one is busting his door down with these kinds of offers yet.
How is it 'his chance?'
You think if he works harder, or wiggles his ass the offers will improve?
Everyone in the league knows what Ras (cheap 4th D on a good team), Kadri (too long 2nd line centre contract) and Coleman (too expensive checker contract) are.
If they really want our guys they'd make serious offers. Making the playoffs this has development and of course fiscal benefits. Nothing he's received outweighs that yet.
Conroy loves getting young players and picks. If those were on offer he'd be all over them.
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03-06-2025, 10:48 PM
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#49
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
How? No one is busting his door down with these kinds of offers yet.
How is it 'his chance?'
You think if he works harder, or wiggles his ass the offers will improve?
Everyone in the league knows what Ras (cheap 4th D on a good team), Kadri (too long 2nd line centre contract) and Coleman (too expensive checker contract) are.
If they really want our guys they'd make serious offers. Making the playoffs this has development and of course fiscal benefits. Nothing he's received outweighs that yet.
Conroy loves getting young players and picks. If those were on offer he'd be all over them.
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I mean you don't know that he's listening to offers at all. All the legit insiders have said Conroy is not willing to move any of those guys.
We have 2/4 of our forum insiders saying he is somewhat listening but not seriously. The others say he is not fielding offers.
Theres a pretty solid change he's not listening to offers on these guys.
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03-06-2025, 11:02 PM
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#50
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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If anything remotely close to this return was on the table for Kadri then this is a mistake by Conroy, crazy overpayment by the Avs to get Nelson
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03-06-2025, 11:08 PM
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#51
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Calgary
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I'm pretty sure Colorado would have offered this for Kadri, but talks with Colorado never got to this point because we weren't really intent on selling, and Colorado moved on.
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03-06-2025, 11:14 PM
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#52
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Originally Posted by kyuss275
Vancouver says hello
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Ritchie was the AVS best prospect. I think that he's a much better get than Brzustewicz.
1 year after the fact we only got a 1st for Hanifin, a 2nd for Tanev, and a 3rd for Z. Jeannot got more than all 3.
Anyway, not here to complain about Flames trades, just wish they would be in on this seller's market.
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03-06-2025, 11:28 PM
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Avs must think they have a chance to keep Nelson at a decent price considering how much they gave up here.
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03-06-2025, 11:40 PM
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#54
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sofa GM
Not really, Ritchie is a waaaaaaaaayyy better prospect than Bruz and Flames had to take a cap dump. This is a far superior return to Lindholm trade.
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Cap dump? maybe for Vancouver they did quite well with Kuzy using him in another deal and never needed cap space anyway
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03-06-2025, 11:41 PM
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#55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedHawk12
I'm pretty sure Colorado would have offered this for Kadri, but talks with Colorado never got to this point because we weren't really intent on selling, and Colorado moved on.
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Why? what are you basing this on
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03-06-2025, 11:43 PM
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#56
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Lots of teams wanted Nelson for a number of reasons. Rental or otherwise. Avs had to step up.
Marchand to Vegas now? Or LA.
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03-06-2025, 11:45 PM
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#57
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Originally Posted by browna
Lots of teams wanted Nelson for a number of reasons. Rental or otherwise. Avs had to step up.
Marchand to Vegas now? Or LA.
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both teams need to add some Oiler beating power
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03-06-2025, 11:48 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Why? what are you basing this on
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They were very interested in Kadri. Nelson was not necessarily their Plan A. It's just that talks with Calgary never really progressed far enough, so I guess you could continue to use the argument of "we don't know what could have been because it didn't happen", although I think that's a weak argument even though technically true.
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03-06-2025, 11:56 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Calgary
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As Avs GM you have this offer ready but the choice is Nelson or Kadri. You are taking Nelson 10 times out of 10. They will bring similar styles but one is a ufa you can probably re-sign for around 5 million or let walk the other is 7+ million and 35 next season.
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03-07-2025, 12:14 AM
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#60
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sofa GM
This is Conroys chance……
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This really is his chance to do something special with the Flames and finally have the guts/balls as a GM to make some difficult decisions during a year while the Flames are playing okay hockey. We need a GM who can make the tough decisions of: "Yeah, you guys did great, but we still have a long ways to go before we're contenders so I'm making moves that benefit the team long term." I hope Conroy was able to learn from Treliving's past mistakes.
Rasmus' value will never be this high. If Conroy waits until next year, they'll get scraps compared to the current market value.
If he doesn't sell, then anything less than a cup is a failure in my mind because he would also be mortgaging the team's future.
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