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Old 02-19-2025, 09:09 PM   #9321
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How about we just keep our own record setting, memorial cup winning top 10 picks and let them play their careers here?

Don't trade parekh for anything. Definitely trade 1 or more.of Rasmus, weegar, Mews, bzrustewicz for the best center or pick for Misa.
No combination of those players are going to get you a top 2 pick for a chance of misa. Not to mention Anderson and weager would never waive to go to a bottom team like that.
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Old 02-19-2025, 09:38 PM   #9322
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It’s interesting to think about. Is Parekh possibly a Makar? I don’t think anyone would trade Makar for Fantilli one for one. Yet we still don’t know what Fantilli or Parekh are going to become. So it’s up in the air as of now.

I wouldn’t trade Parekh for anything less than a surefire #1 Center prospect or current elite NHL Center.
Parekh may be a Makar, but the odds aren’t great as Makar is just that good.

Fantilli has already shown a fair bit in the NHL. He’s not being traded for Parekh.
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Old 02-19-2025, 11:48 PM   #9323
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Because Adams is trying to salvage his career at this point.
He's toast if the Sabres don't make the playoffs and probably done either way to be honest.
WAT! That isn't gonna happen terrible trade or not
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Old 02-20-2025, 01:52 AM   #9324
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We should definitely have tried to pull dylan strome a few years ago. His value was so low, now a ppg center on the top team in the league.

Mctavish comparable? Cozens?
I don't have an advanced stats sheet in front of me, but I think Strome is the kind of player who needs to play with high-end linemates, with the kind of coach that will utilize him the right way. McT and Cozens (especially Cozens) are both miles better in the speed department, and even if they never put up the kind of numbers Strome has, they can be used in any situation.

Speaking of McT, he's been in trade rumors here and there all season, and if he's being shopped, I really hope Conny is calling- he would be amazing. Not sure why Anaheim would entertain dealing him, especially with one of their other young centers (Zegras) on the block since the start of the year. I know that McTavish and Gauthier have been playing the wing a lot, but perhaps they think they have the center depth to make a move...
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Old 02-20-2025, 04:50 AM   #9325
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We should definitely have tried to pull dylan strome a few years ago. His value was so low, now a ppg center on the top team in the league.

Mctavish comparable? Cozens?
I doubt that Strome would have flourished in Calgary where offense goes to die.

He's only been a PPG player this year, previously was a mid 60's guy with Washington.

Credit Ovie for a lot of his points.

Not sure why as a UFA he would have chosen Calgary anyway over Washington?
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Old 02-20-2025, 07:52 AM   #9326
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I doubt that Strome would have flourished in Calgary where offense goes to die.

He's only been a PPG player this year, previously was a mid 60's guy with Washington.

Credit Ovie for a lot of his points.

Not sure why as a UFA he would have chosen Calgary anyway over Washington?
It's not rocket surgery; he only signed for $3.5 mil as a UFA with washington. He had just put up a ~60 point season with chicago and was not qualified. We were short on centers, especially younger centers. I know I wasn't alone in banging the drum to make an offer. Why not give someone like that $4.5 mil? He might have made a great compliment to Huberdeau, and would have given us room to trade Lindholm a bit sooner.

Anyways, it's moot now. But that is an example of why we can't just give up on high potential players. Guys like Zegras, McTavish, Cozens are likely to still have juice to squeeze with patience and the right treatment.

Credit ovi, sure i guess... but that's pretty foolish. Strome is leading the top team in the league in points overall, plenty came while ovi was injured. If anything Ovi should be thrilled to have someone like strome to play with post backstrom, and it's showing with a better season this year than the last 5!
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It's not rocket surgery; he only signed for $3.5 mil as a UFA with washington. He had just put up a ~60 point season with chicago and was not qualified. We were short on centers, especially younger centers. I know I wasn't alone in banging the drum to make an offer. Why not give someone like that $4.5 mil? He might have made a great compliment to Huberdeau, and would have given us room to trade Lindholm a bit sooner.

Anyways, it's moot now. But that is an example of why we can't just give up on high potential players. Guys like Zegras, McTavish, Cozens are likely to still have juice to squeeze with patience and the right treatment.

Credit ovi, sure i guess... but that's pretty foolish. Strome is leading the top team in the league in points overall, plenty came while ovi was injured. If anything Ovi should be thrilled to have someone like strome to play with post backstrom, and it's showing with a better season this year than the last 5!
Strome is not a very good player, there is a reason no one wanted to trade for him and Chicago did not qualify him. He had 48 points with Chicago, not 60.

He is terrible defensively, he currently is getting 80% offensive zone starts.
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The entire Capitals team is experiencing a resurgence of sorts and he's along for the ride. Coaching? Sure seems like a good fit and getting the most from a talented group of players. Adding Dubois & Chychrun also helping and at least with Dubois that was looked at as a negative add.
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The entire Capitals team is experiencing a resurgence of sorts and he's along for the ride. Coaching? Sure seems like a good fit and getting the most from a talented group of players. Adding Dubois & Chychrun also helping and at least with Dubois that was looked at as a negative add.
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Signing free agents also requires the player wanting to play here. It is always easy to say after the fact we should signed X Y and Z.
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Old 02-20-2025, 09:44 AM   #9331
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Strome is not a very good player, there is a reason no one wanted to trade for him and Chicago did not qualify him. He had 48 points with Chicago, not 60.

He is terrible defensively, he currently is getting 80% offensive zone starts.
This is a ridiculous statement. He is leading the top team in the league in points as their top center. He is a very good player- the evidence is apparent.
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Old 02-20-2025, 09:45 AM   #9332
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Signing free agents also requires the player wanting to play here. It is always easy to say after the fact we should signed X Y and Z.
Every good free agent is a player the Flames could have signed and didn’t
Every good trade is a trade the Flames could have matched and didn’t
Every waiver player (good or bad!) is a player the Flames should have claimed but didn’t

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Old 02-20-2025, 09:49 AM   #9333
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Every good free agent is a player the Flames could have signed and didn’t
Every good trade is a trade the Flames could have matched and didn’t
Every waiver player (good or bad!) is a player the Flames should have claimed but didn’t

This is the way.
Your way of consistent hyperbole and overdramaticism is just as grating.

This isn't what i said, I just bemoaned that we didn't make more of an offer- IMO money talks on one year contracts and strome is canadian to boot. I don't think we even took a shot though, as opinions are more like Cobra's in our organization.

My real point is that we shouldn't discount guys like McTavish or Cozens or Zegras and Strome is a good example of why.
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Strome is not a very good player, there is a reason no one wanted to trade for him and Chicago did not qualify him. He had 48 points with Chicago, not 60.

He is terrible defensively, he currently is getting 80% offensive zone starts.
2 more comments here because I can't get over how dumb this is.

1. Strome had 48 points in 69 games. Drumroll... 57 point pace on 82 games. I rounded to 60 which is a better assessment than whatever you did.
He did this on the worst team in the league- statistically one of the worst teams of all time, only had a -6 in that time too.

2. Is he terrible defensively? The knock has always been that he's slow. Advanced metrics pretty poor. But he's a +11 this year. Career wise only a -36 and he has been on absolutely piss poor teams. IMO watching him, he's much more stick active and I think he's not really a puck dominant type of player which greatly impacts his possession stats. But he's good a distributing and he's good at crashing the net. The 80% zone starts is just good coaching- the team is top in the league thanks to smart deployment.
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Strome is a slow, skilled offense only player.
It was a great buy low bet by Washington, but not a guy that I regret the Flames not signing. With Calgary he's a 30-40 point player at best.
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How do we know we didn't make an offer.

Strange thing to be upset about.
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Your way of consistent hyperbole and overdramaticism is just as grating.

This isn't what i said, I just bemoaned that we didn't make more of an offer- IMO money talks on one year contracts and strome is canadian to boot. I don't think we even took a shot though, as opinions are more like Cobra's in our organization.

My real point is that we shouldn't discount guys like McTavish or Cozens or Zegras and Strome is a good example of why.
Calm yourself, it was a lighthearted comment on a running joke. Just because you took it personal doesn’t mean you need to make things personal (I hadn’t even read your post).

If your real point is that Strome is a good example of why we shouldn’t discount McTavish or Cozens or Zegras, you should have just made that point instead of bemoaning not signing Strome 3 years ago. We didn’t need him then and he’d be a poor fit for what we’re trying to build and our timeline now.
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A poor fit?!! What are y'all talking about. A 26 year old offense first 6'3 Center is pretty much exactly what we need right now.

I feel like I am being gaslit... we're joking here right? I would take strome on the club in a heartbeat, and truly believe he'd be the best center we have, probably be a reasonably large amount. He'd be playing likely with Huberdeau and someone like Coronato, so I think 60 points is absolutely reasonable.

Anyways, it's totally immaterial.
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How are you being gaslit?
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Strome and Huberdeau on the same line would be hard to watch lol.
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