2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by TOfan

It wouldn’t be surprising if some players felt that way, but the whole room?

If this is accurate then there must be a pretty big gap between the players and management, which would be unacceptable.

A GM must have his finger on the pulse of the room. No way would/should Rutherford/Alvin or any other GM for that matter make this kind of move without being all but certain they are making the move with best intentions of the room and culture in mind.

They were shopping Pettersson at the same time they shopped Miller. So maybe management decided they’re both a problem.

But from all accounts, Miller was the more vocal, popular guy in the room, and the off-ice leader of the team. And their reluctance to move him was in part because they were worried there wasn’t enough vocal leadership in the room without him.

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Yeah and prior to this season he had 412 points in his first 407 NHL games which is pretty great no matter how you slice it.

In the season and a half stretch before this injury supposedly occurred (end of January 2024) he had 166 points in 129 games (7th in the NHL) and 66 goals (9th)

At his best he's a top end offensive talent that also strong defensive metrics (at times elite defensive metrics) but what we are witnessing right now seems to be his worst.

https://x.com/jfreshhockey/status/17...529126761?s=46

If your training staff thinks the injury isn't chronic then I think some team could potentially get him for much less than he would have cost in a trade 12 months ago.

I agree with this. We don't know how his recovery is coming along from the injury he had. He could in fact be another stellar buy low candidate. I think you have to give him a serious look.

[Paulie Walnuts]

There is not buy low for a player making 11.6M for the next 7 years.

[RedHawk12]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

There is not buy low for a player making 11.6M for the next 7 years.

What does this mean?

Eichel was a buy-low at the time making 10M with a feared chronic injury. You can totally buy low on star players recovering from injuries.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by RedHawk12

What does this mean?

Eichel was a buy-low at the time making 10M with a feared chronic injury. You can totally buy low on star players recovering from injuries.

This might not be injury related and Eichel had 4 years left on his deal you could LTIR him forever.

11.6M for a player who might just be broken is a massive risk, you can't LTIR a sulking player.

[stemit14]

If it’s as simple as allowing Petterson to heal properly and then he’ll return to his previous form… why doesn’t Vancouver just do that? Why trade him and see another team do that? With Eichel it was a fundamental difference in opinion of treatment between player and team. Don’t think there is anything like that with Petterson and the Canucks.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by stemit14

If it’s as simple as allowing Petterson to heal properly and then he’ll return to his previous form… why doesn’t Vancouver just do that? Why trade him and see another team do that? With Eichel it was a fundamental difference in opinion of treatment between player and team. Don’t think there is anything like that with Petterson and the Canucks.

A lot to unpack in Vancouver, this can't just be injury related otherwise you shut him down. It's not like you are losing any offence from the lineup.

They openly talked about firing Boudreau while waiting on Tocchet, they should really fire the coach first and see if a new guy can get them going.

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by stemit14

If it’s as simple as allowing Petterson to heal properly and then he’ll return to his previous form… why doesn’t Vancouver just do that? Why trade him and see another team do that? With Eichel it was a fundamental difference in opinion of treatment between player and team. Don’t think there is anything like that with Petterson and the Canucks.

Truth is we don't know either way. As long as Conroy does his due diligence I'm good either way. Could be a franchise altering trade for some organization but its a huge risk. He could go somewhere for a bag of pucks and turn it around or he could be the next Lindholm its a big risk.

[Vinny01]

The deal that was thrown out by Friedman where it was Cozens and Byram for Pettersson makes as much sense as it ever has before considering Pettersson is struggling just as much or more than Cozens.

The 4 nations has done nothing to help the value of Petey and Vancouver could be staring down a Huberdeau type deal for their franchise player.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

The deal that was thrown out by Friedman where it was Cozens and Byram for Pettersson makes as much sense as it ever has before considering Pettersson is struggling just as much or more than Cozens.

The 4 nations has done nothing to help the value of Petey and Vancouver could be staring down a Huberdeau type deal for their franchise player.

Why on earth would Buffalo do that? Pete is about 6 months away from having negative value. Maybe less.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Why on earth would Buffalo do that? Pete is about 6 months away from having negative value. Maybe less.

Because Adams is trying to salvage his career at this point.
He's toast if the Sabres don't make the playoffs and probably done either way to be honest.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Why on earth would Buffalo do that? Pete is about 6 months away from having negative value. Maybe less.

Why would Vancouver do that? They already made a deal for another dman.

Byram also has injury issues with concussions, you are getting rid of Pete and creating a hole down the middle even if he is a 60-70 points guy.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Why on earth would Buffalo do that? Pete is about 6 months away from having negative value. Maybe less.

Pettersson and Cozens are both distressed assets.

[Samonadreau]

Petterson is a shell of what he was 2 seasons ago.

Reminds me of Lindholms one great season and then fell off a cliff

[saillias]

Somewhat interesting Seravalli segment with Steinberg yesterday. He reiterates Conroy is not interested in trading Andersson and wants to keep him.

He expects the Flames to be active, he said something like another Frost & Farabee type trade, Conroy is very active calling managers, and still wants to upgrade in that early mid 20s age group. He also expects the kind of last minute trade deadline day deals for vets on the cheap - bottom pairing / 4th line role.

[SuperMatt18]

The lack of trades during this break was surprising to me.

Seems short sighted by the "buying" GMs to not bring guys in while they could have adjusted and settled in with no games going on, instead of doing it in the middle of what is going to be a very congested schedule to end the year.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

The lack of trades during this break was surprising to me.

Seems short sighted by the "buying" GMs to not bring guys in while they could have adjusted and settled in with no games going on, instead of doing it in the middle of what is going to be a very congested schedule to end the year.

This break is a big deal to players who aren’t in the 4 nations. They all booked vacations months in advance and are resting and recharging. That’s one of the reasons the NHLPA was so strict about replacement players for the tournament. So I can see why GMs wouldn’t want to mess with that. It would be like trading a guy over the Christmas break.

Also, a bunch of pretty important managers have been focused on the tournament, and wouldn’t want to be cut out of negotiations. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a tacit agreement around the league to take a break from trade talk.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by D as in David

Pettersson and Cozens are both distressed assets.

Yeah but 11.6Mx7

[Paulie Walnuts]

Yeah the lack of movement didn’t surprise me. A lot of players have been planning for this break with their fami. It would be a db move to trade them. Trading them now is ok.

[Ped]

Looks like Chicago and Seth Jones are exploring a trade.


https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article...g-about-trade/