Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Weitz

We’re all speculating including you thinking it’s not going to cost anything. I imagine you still think there’s only going to be a steel tax and not a gas or or oil or literally everything you use every day tax.

Carney hasn’t posted his plan yet. If you know feel free to enlighten us.

I never said it’s not going to cost anything, why lie? I’ve asked what it’s going to cost, the only person who could actually wager something was GGG.

You said it’s going to, so lay it on the table. Make up the numbers if you want. Say steel is taxed at an extra 2%. Now tell me how much more a trip to the grocery store is going to cost me. I’ll wait.

[Winnie]

Does every thread on CP these days get ruined by the same people?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Winnie

Does every thread on CP these days get ruined by the same people?

Yes. We just do it because we’re waiting for your bimonthly post complaining about it.

[Winnie]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Yes. We just do it because we’re waiting for your bimonthly post complaining about it.

See you in two weeks.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by StickMan

Trudeau....

That was a very long article of complete bs.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by StickMan

Trudeau....

Whoever wrote that is a complete moron. Rick Bell? David Staples?

[GioforPM]

That was a hell of a speech by Trudeau last night.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Whoever wrote that is a complete moron. Rick Bell? David Staples?

One of the usual wieners.

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They sure do pop up out of the woodwork. He used to be a Wildrose member with Smith. You'll be shocked to know the "Education" section on his Linkedin is empty, so you know, Journalist, Economist, the do it all type.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

One of the usual wieners.


They sure do pop up out of the woodwork. He used to be a Wildrose member with Smith. You'll be shocked to know the "Education" section on his Linkedin is empty, so you know, Journalist, Economist, the do it all type.

The one sentence paragraphs are a dead giveaway of a hack.

[Fuzz]

Oh Pierre, is that the best you got? Cribbing Trueadues strongest points, but so flaccidly they have no emotional impact?

[Doctorfever]

Holy crap. That comment from Carney that “we don’t use much steel anyway” (paraphrasing) tells me all I need to know about his economic intellect.

I mean, how short sighted and narrow minded can you possibly be?

I really thought he would give the Liberals a decent boost if he won the leadership race. Now, I’m not so sure.

[Ryan Coke]

Let’s be honest about Carney’s comments, it isn’t that he is a complete idiot, he’s being a politician. I would hope he knows we all use steel, and that costs incurred on producers will increases costs for everyone down the road. But he’s trying to sell it to people without critical thinking or who are blindly partisan that it won’t ‘really’ affect them.

It’s similar to Trump convincing some Americans that Tarrifs are paid by foreign countries, not by the American consumer.

It’s still going to cost everyone, but it looks different so he can tell people it is different, and it’s only the big bad large companies that produce things that you don’t directly buy that he’s making pay, not you, the voter. Because he wants your vote, and oil and steel companies don’t vote.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by evman150

Azure calls anyone who doesn't agree with his myopic and provincial vision of Canada a "moron".

Say what you will about Mark Carney, but calling him a "moron" who has "no clue how the economy works" says far more about Azure than it does about Mark Carney.

"Moron"
- 13 years at Goldman Sachs with very high profile positions
- 5 years as Governor of the Bank of Canada during the 2008 financial crisis during which he held Canada to the best performance of any G7 country. Was widely viewed as one of the best in the world
-Many years on boards various international financial and economic bodies
-13 years as Governor of the Bank of England steering the country through the Scottish Independence referendum and Brexit


Azure
-posts a lot on a Calgary Flames message board's off topic politics threads

[Manhattanboy]

Liberals continue their self serving ways by failing to recall Parliament in the face of one of the most serious threats to Canada’s interests ever.

[Murph]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Liberals continue their self serving ways by failing to recall Parliament in the face of one of the most serious threats to Canada’s interests ever.

Yeah - the conservatives calling for the house to reconvene is all about constructive debate on how to respond to the US tariffs. It’s not self serving at all.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

"Moron"
- 13 years at Goldman Sachs with very high profile positions
- 5 years as Governor of the Bank of Canada during the 2008 financial crisis during which he held Canada to the best performance of any G7 country. Was widely viewed as one of the best in the world
-Many years on boards various international financial and economic bodies
-13 years as Governor of the Bank of England steering the country through the Scottish Independence referendum and Brexit


Azure
-posts a lot on a Calgary Flames message board's off topic politics threads

I'm not going to defend either side here and I dont really know much about Carney but...when it comes to finances I'm skeptical about Resumes.

13 years with a Bank that is only not bankrupt because the US Government saved it.

'Steered Canada' through a Financial Crisis that...he was working for an Investment Bank that was a fairly large cause of that crisis in the first place, maybe he had a bit of an inside track and was just playing for the other team.

Being on boards of financial and economic bodies is dubious, some are active and important and others are rubber-stampers, hard to judge which he was.

Again, I know very little about him overall, but just looking at it one could also say...."Where Mark Carney goes...there tends to be a crisis."

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Ryan Coke

Let’s be honest about Carney’s comments, it isn’t that he is a complete idiot, he’s being a politician. I would hope he knows we all use steel, and that costs incurred on producers will increases costs for everyone down the road. But he’s trying to sell it to people without critical thinking or who are blindly partisan that it won’t ‘really’ affect them.

It’s similar to Trump convincing some Americans that Tarrifs are paid by foreign countries, not by the American consumer.

It’s still going to cost everyone, but it looks different so he can tell people it is different, and it’s only the big bad large companies that produce things that you don’t directly buy that he’s making pay, not you, the voter. Because he wants your vote, and oil and steel companies don’t vote.

I think he’s being a poor politician. That sound bite is going to be used to paint him as an out of touch intellectual.

People are too dumb to accept the nuanced answer of there will be a small but not significant effect on the price of everything relative to other macro economic affects. So instead he has to say something about it not affecting people and he said the wrong thing.

I think this affects his chances at winning, he needs to be a better politician.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by Murph

Yeah - the conservatives calling for the house to reconvene is all about constructive debate on how to respond to the US tariffs. It’s not self serving at all.

So you agree MPs should not have the opportunity to debate Canada’s response. Ok.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Do you agree MPs should not have the opportunity to debate Canada’s response. Ok.

Yes, Canada needs to present a united front here on how to deal with Trump in the initial stages of the Tarrifs. Question period and toppling government would not be helpful right now.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

So you agree MPs should not have the opportunity to debate Canada’s response. Ok.

Originally Posted by GGG

Yes, Canada needs to present a united front here on how to deal with Trump in the initial stages of the Tarrifs. Question period and toppling government would not be helpful right now.

I'm kind of on both sides of the fence here.

On the one hand Trudeau addressed it, I havent listened to all of his speech, I went cross-eyed and nearly comatose after his WW1 analogies and then picked up the Coles' notes on the rest.

On the other hand, I'm getting 'Political Brinkmanship' vibes. Lots of saber-rattling and thats about it.

Is Monday a holiday or something? Why are they implementing these on a Tuesday? Maybe a day for cooler heads to prevail?