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Old 01-22-2025, 06:47 AM   #7781
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I see him and Kuzmenko as almost identical players.
Kurashev is younger but it’s a good comparison.
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Old 01-22-2025, 06:58 AM   #7782
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If the Flames continue to remain in the hunt, I suspect they may make a move or two to try and keep competitive. Young center remains priority for Craig but there’s seemingly a holding pattern out there with teams all not really sure where they are this year.

I don’t see any depth d being signed here, not unless something is moved out.
Craig’s not going to use all his draft stock for a small window here, he’s trying to weaponize cap space if it can’t be used to acquire that #1 C.
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Old 01-22-2025, 07:01 AM   #7783
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I listened to Jakob Pelletier's interview on the Fan 960 yesterday. Pelletier said he plays poker once a year, at the Flames' event, because people, who have the money, play a lot of poker. Pelletier then said at run time 2:04-2:06, "Wolfie's going to sign a nice ticket soon". I don't know if Pelletier was speaking about what is actually going to happen or indirectly talking about Wolf's play, but I thought it was a comment worth sharing.
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Who is overreacting? That’s the exact move Treliving loved to make.
There are only so many spots for players. Having an abundance of picks is great, but there are 50 contract spots and only so many spots in the AHL. Trading a late pick to help this year is fine to reward the guys who stayed here and have propped this team up. Trading a 5th for an improvement (preferably rental) on the bottom pairing is not going to hurt the future. Do we not want the guys who decided to stay to be rewarded?

The best thing about this REBUILD is that they are still winning! And the farm is winning! There is a culture being built of hard work, by guys who care enough about this team and city that wanted to stay when things looked horrible for a couple of years. Yet we still have people wanting to tank when that has proven no more reliable than any other way to rebuild. People forgetting that there is a salary cap and you need to have some veterans on contracts. People thinking that just because you have "prospects" that they are automatic.

Please, I beg anyone to go back a few years, to any year 5 years or further back. Have a look at any team's top ten prospects and see how many actually make an impact!

Hockey is entertainment. Enjoy the team, enjoy the ride and hope and trust that Conroy knows what he is doing. Honestly, this team is one of the more fun ones in recent memory.
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Old 01-22-2025, 07:11 AM   #7785
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Especially when guys like Solovyov, Grushnikov, Kuznetzov, and Poirier are doing so well on the back end, and lots of players lead by Stromgren up front. The young guys have been among the team’s best this year. Getting a filler guy for draft picks would be stupid at this point. The only guys that should be added are potential cap dumps only along with something to take them.
LOL, this is what I am talking about. These guys are NOT NHL ready or they would have been up or given more run in the pre-season. It's doubtful even one of these guys becomes anything more than a depth piece, realistically.

While I would prefer your scenario of a cap dump with an asset, spending a late round pick on a rental to help this team that has exceeded expectation does not change the direction this franchise takes. It rewards the guys who have busted their ass all year!
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Old 01-22-2025, 07:13 AM   #7786
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If they want a 3rd pairing D, then why not just call up Kuznetsov? He’s been a beast for the Wranglers.

A Kuznetsov-Solovyov pairing is likely better than anything the Flames could trade for. And it’s free.
Based on their play in the AHL? Defenseman take longer to develop. If the Flames thought they were ready, Barrie would be on waivers and so would Hanley. There is a difference between the depth guy they can get for a 5th than anything that is on the farm right now. Sorry.

Christ, people don't like Hanley or Miromanov, do you really think that if guys are the farm were better that they wouldn't be up in place of the two vets in the press box?
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Old 01-22-2025, 07:17 AM   #7787
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If the Flames continue to remain in the hunt, I suspect they may make a move or two to try and keep competitive. Young center remains priority for Craig but there’s seemingly a holding pattern out there with teams all not really sure where they are this year.

I don’t see any depth d being signed here, not unless something is moved out.
Craig’s not going to use all his draft stock for a small window here, he’s trying to weaponize cap space if it can’t be used to acquire that #1 C.
Obviously this should remain the goal. But do you really think that if a useful guy on an expiring contract that could bump a Bean or Pachal to 7th d-man duties for the playoffs for a 4th or 5th hurts the team going forward? Or does it make the guys in the room feel like their GM is looking out for them and the future?
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Old 01-22-2025, 07:22 AM   #7788
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If the Flames continue to remain in the hunt, I suspect they may make a move or two to try and keep competitive. Young center remains priority for Craig but there’s seemingly a holding pattern out there with teams all not really sure where they are this year.

I don’t see any depth d being signed here, not unless something is moved out.
Craig’s not going to use all his draft stock for a small window here, he’s trying to weaponize cap space if it can’t be used to acquire that #1 C.
This is the only sensible strategy for the Flames right now. With so many teams still in the playoff mix and the cap going up soon, the offers are probably very low.

In a month some teams will put all their chips in and that will be peak time to maximize Ras’s value or get futures in exchange for accepting cap dumps.

There’s going to be lots of deals.
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Old 01-22-2025, 07:24 AM   #7789
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If the Flames continue to remain in the hunt, I suspect they may make a move or two to try and keep competitive. Young center remains priority for Craig but there’s seemingly a holding pattern out there with teams all not really sure where they are this year.

I don’t see any depth d being signed here, not unless something is moved out.
Craig’s not going to use all his draft stock for a small window here, he’s trying to weaponize cap space if it can’t be used to acquire that #1 C.
I don’t see any #1 center being available with a trade. And I would not be prepared to trade for any player that doesn't fit with this teams timeline.

I really think any trade is short sighted unless it is for futures.
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Old 01-22-2025, 07:34 AM   #7790
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Let's not forget that Seravelli had the Flames trading for Barrie at the deadline last year as well.



https://flamesnation.ca/news/seraval...n-tyson-barrie
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Old 01-22-2025, 07:54 AM   #7791
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Lol spending picks on a 3rd pairing dman.

Ya, I'm totally off base fellas.
So the trade happened?

Who for?

What did they give up?

Or are you just using what a guy said "might" happen on the radio to somehow support a theory without any actual facts or change to what the team is doing?
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I think you could see them nibble around the edges for a 3rd pair defenceman…Probably don’t want to pay an arm and a leg to do it…mid to late picks…”
So none of this was an actual report of what Conroy intended - just what Frank thinks they might do.
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If the Flames are in a playoff spot at the deadline, I wouldn’t be surprised if they trade for a 3rd pairing D. In the eyes of GMs and coaches, you can’t have too much depth on D. And they don’t trust guys without substantial NHL experience to take a regular shift in the playoffs. Huska is not going to be comfortable sending Solovyov, Kuznetsov, or Poirier over the boards in a game 6 against the Kings.
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I don’t see any #1 center being available with a trade. And I would not be prepared to trade for any player that doesn't fit with this teams timeline.

I really think any trade is short sighted unless it is for futures.
If you remain singularly focused on only one goal, you are going to be continually disappointed.

Managing a team is more complicated than that, and while the current roster doesn't interest you, it DOES matter, and it too needs to be managed.
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Old 01-22-2025, 08:24 AM   #7795
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So none of this was an actual report of what Conroy intended - just what Frank thinks they might do.
PROOF that Monahammer was right all along!
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I listened to Jakob Pelletier's interview on the Fan 960 yesterday. Pelletier said he plays poker once a year, at the Flames' event, because people, who have the money, play a lot of poker. Pelletier then said at run time 2:04-2:06, "Wolfie's going to sign a nice ticket soon". I don't know if Pelletier was speaking about what is actually going to happen or indirectly talking about Wolf's play, but I thought it was a comment worth sharing.

That whole interview was amazing. Laughing about annoying backlund in the morning before he has his coffee, and walking around the plane forcing everyone to take out their earbuds to talk to him was hilarious. I really hope he sticks long term, seems like such a positive guy to have around the team.
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I listened to Jakob Pelletier's interview on the Fan 960 yesterday. Pelletier said he plays poker once a year, at the Flames' event, because people, who have the money, play a lot of poker. Pelletier then said at run time 2:04-2:06, "Wolfie's going to sign a nice ticket soon". I don't know if Pelletier was speaking about what is actually going to happen or indirectly talking about Wolf's play, but I thought it was a comment worth sharing.
Just players talking about other players: "he's going to get paid!"
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Old 01-22-2025, 08:39 AM   #7798
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If they stick in a playoff spot I wouldn't be surprised if they DO trade for some depth using a late round pick, but I think they are more thin up front than on the blueline.

But I don't consider it treasonous to support a team that has exceeded expectations to this degree.
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PROOF that Monahammer was right all along!
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Look, several people here are already preparing for their 180, just read the last page of posts compared to what people were arguing against me a few days ago. It went from Conroy would never do that to it's ok if he does it because...
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