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Old 01-17-2025, 06:32 PM   #7321
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Do a little research he’s going to 29 in 2 weeks…...
I think that makes him 28.
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Old 01-17-2025, 06:42 PM   #7322
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When did Frank say this? Thread moves fast and I couldn’t find anything
I thought that it was Frank, but could have been another pundit. Definitely media and not fan driven.

I thought that Ritchie was too much, but when you step back, middelstadt is overpaid and is a redundant winger in Colorado. The avs are desperate for a play driving center, and are very familiar with kadri.

It does make some sense.
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Middelstadt tops out at what a 50 point center who ain’t much defensively? Suspect the Avs want to get out from that trade they made with Buffalo. Not sure Kadri is the guy to get them out from it but Middelstadt is not much of a hockey player. His career high in goals in 18 for Christ sake and he makes 5.75 million a year.
And Kadri is signed at 7 million, is 8 years older and signed for two additional years.

I like Kadri and I believe he is the better player today for sure but Kadri's contract is not appealing for other teams. Father time has been known to be almost unbeatable and Kadri is quickly approaching the age where most players start to really fall off.

It simply doesn't make sense for the AVS and if you view things from a completely non-bias way, it's easy to see why Mittelstadt is worth more.
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Old 01-17-2025, 06:54 PM   #7324
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Middlestat and ritchie for Kadri would be a steal for the Flames.
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Old 01-17-2025, 06:57 PM   #7325
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I think that makes him 28.
Will he be 28 or 29 on July 1st.

Maybe math wasn’t your thing. Sorry b

You got a like from Burning Beard wow
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Old 01-17-2025, 06:59 PM   #7326
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Do a little research he’s going to 29 in 2 weeks and hasn’t played a full season since 18/19.

He’s good friends with Weegar and Huberdeau.

Stop hunting for likes from people like Burning Beard.
Must have struck a nerve.

Come on, man. You know full well Ekblad won’t be signing a 2-3 year deal. Doesn’t matter if he’s 28 or 29. He’ll sign for at least double that term and it wouldn’t be shocking if he signed for 7. I’m sure he’s good pals with Weegar and Huberdeau but he likely has friends in other markets. Hell, he’s good friends with McDavid. DId yOU kNeW that? do yoUR REseArch, BrAH. Why not sign with the Oilers?

What’s the draw for him to come to Calgary? Top 5 City in the world according to the Economist?

The Flames signing Ekblad to a two year deal is about as likely as the Flames signing Bennett to a two year deal. It’s not happening and I doubt the Flames are even considering it.
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Will he be 28 or 29 on July 1st.

Maybe math wasn’t your thing. Sorry b

You got a like from Burning Beard wow
You didn’t say on July 1st and no way he is signing a 2-3 year deal.
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And Kadri is signed at 7 million, is 8 years older and signed for two additional years.

I like Kadri and I believe he is the better player today for sure but Kadri's contract is not appealing for other teams. Father time has been known to be almost unbeatable and Kadri is quickly approaching the age where most players start to really fall off.

It simply doesn't make sense for the AVS and if you view things from a completely non-bias way, it's easy to see why Mittelstadt is worth more.
I know I am repeating myself from 3 pages ago, but I think the points are worth repeating considering the declarations being made this evening.

Also, consider the news that Mittelstadt is in the coach's doghouse and not suiting up because they want to trade him away. I do not think his value is very high right now inside the Avs or around the league, even with all his youth.

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I guess that would depend on how badly the Avs want out of the Mittelstadt situation while they are in a win-now window.

Kadri would bring them almost double the goal scoring and could help them try and get out of a wild card position and try for 2nd in their division for home ice advantage for the first round.

The cost difference between Mittelstadt and Kadri is only $1.25M, which doesn't seem like a big deal when you factor in the difference in production right now.

Kadri's NMC means they would have to make him work for this year and next but then the contract changes to a 13 team NTL, which could give the Avs a list of 19 teams they could trade away the last 3 years of his contract.
Kadri's age may be a problem in a couple of years but the Avs only need to own that problem until the end of next season and in that window the Avs are trying to win. (Specifically they want to win right now before Rantanen's contract expires.)

Mittelstadt is a problem now, regardless of his age he is a guy taking up $5.75M in cap space and cannot get to 20 goals. Right now he is at 8 goals in 45 games. (Colton is at 13 goals in 29 games)
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Old 01-17-2025, 07:22 PM   #7329
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Ok. If no Andersson trade this season, then let’s go with something like this:

TRADE #1:

To Colorado: Kadri (20% retained)
To Calgary: Middlestat + Conditional 2nd round pick (becomes a 1st if Colorado makes it past the 1st round)

TRADE #2:

To Dallas: Coleman
To Calgary: 2nd round pick

Who says no?
Actually, everybody.
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Middlestat and ritchie for Kadri would be a steal for the Flames.
I would trade Kadri straight across for Ritchie, and even add a pick or two to get it done.
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You didn’t say on July 1st and no way he is signing a 2-3 year deal.
So when would we sign him? Tomorrow ?
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There is a reason why serevelli suggested Ritchie and middelstadt for kadri. Middelstadt is a better winger than center, and that makes him overpaid for what he brings. The avs don't have a center who is better to step into that spot.

Colorado is fully aware that they are in their window.
I was looking for a post mentioning seravelli saying this and haven't found another. Did seravelli propose this trade?

I would be absolutely over the moon for that trade and eat a ton of crow on Kadris value. It would be the most delicious crow of all time.
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I was looking for a post mentioning seravelli saying this and haven't found another. Did seravelli propose this trade?

I would be absolutely over the moon for that trade and eat a ton of crow on Kadris value. It would be the most delicious crow of all time.
I think it was this post where the Kadri to Avs talk started again:

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Someone on twitter suggested Mittelstadt and Ritchie for Kadri which I would be all over. Too good to be true
"Someone", not necessarily Seravelli.
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And Kadri is signed at 7 million, is 8 years older and signed for two additional years.

I like Kadri and I believe he is the better player today for sure but Kadri's contract is not appealing for other teams. Father time has been known to be almost unbeatable and Kadri is quickly approaching the age where most players start to really fall off.

It simply doesn't make sense for the AVS and if you view things from a completely non-bias way, it's easy to see why Mittelstadt is worth more.
Ya but young players who suck or are not very good are still players who either suck or are not very good. Middelstadt falls into one of those two categories.
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I think it was this post where the Kadri to Avs talk started again:

"Someone", not necessarily Seravelli.
Not sure why I misheard the source. My bad, if it's fluff. Still passes the possibility test, though.
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So when would we sign him? Tomorrow ?
When you talk about how old a player IS, you are using the present tense. Which, in English, refers to today, not July 1.

I think all of us are aware that he can't be signed until July 1. By which time he will, I suppose, be a washed-up old greybeard of 29 who will gladly settle for a 2- or 3-year contract, as opposed to a 28-year-old in the prime of his career who can demand 7 and get it. Is that your argument? Really?
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I don't think Kadri has much value at this point. You might get a 2nd rounder if you retain salary.
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Old 01-17-2025, 10:51 PM   #7338
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And Kadri is signed at 7 million, is 8 years older and signed for two additional years.

I like Kadri and I believe he is the better player today for sure but Kadri's contract is not appealing for other teams. Father time has been known to be almost unbeatable and Kadri is quickly approaching the age where most players start to really fall off.

It simply doesn't make sense for the AVS and if you view things from a completely non-bias way, it's easy to see why Mittelstadt is worth more.
You assume that every GM is making long term plans.

Someone that is not meeting expectations might make decisions skewed to the short term gains they need.

Avs are in their contention window. If Kadri helps them get 2-3 more cracks at the Cup, who cares about the years after that if they win one?

They might be in full rebuild mode in 5-6 years and will have lots of room for buyouts.
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Paulie Walnuts, why you hef to be so mad all the time.
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I can confirm that Colorado has sniffed around Kadri, but I'm not certain he'd even entertain the idea honestly, too much love for Canada and more importantly ensuring his family is around him.
Don't beleive Craig has even floated Kadri's name out in any trade at this point.
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