2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

That’s a sick joke, not a rumor

Sorry

[Tbull8]

Now I’ve gone down the rabbit hole of Wright highlights in juniors and the world juniors. Thanks a lot Sec.

[Oil Stain]

Do fans think the Flames will attempt to trade Sharangovich before his NTC kicks in, or do you think the Flames are still committed to the player?

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Do fans think the Flames will attempt to trade Sharangovich before his NTC kicks in, or do you think the Flames are still committed to the player?

This might be a lost season for Sharangovich, as he works back from injury, but I expect him to be fine next season.

I hate to be a prognosticator, by when Zary comes back, he is going to be a shell of himself for the first 20-30 games, as well. It's just what happens when an injury is significant.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by dino7c

he just turned 21 and has 8 goals and 18 points in 38 NHL games this year

How good is he at preventing goals?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by butterfly

How good is he at preventing goals?

He is certainly worth the risk that is being talked about...he was a consensus top 5 pick very recently. #1 for a long time. Playing center in the NHL is not easy.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Do fans think the Flames will attempt to trade Sharangovich before his NTC kicks in, or do you think the Flames are still committed to the player?

I think they’d only trade Sharangovich if they got value for him and I really doubt that is happening with how he is playing. They need cap more than cap space right now and they might as well stick with him and hope he bounces back.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by I am Beast

If we are trading Pelletier, I’d rather see him going to Montreal for Kirby Dach, 6’4 right shot center from Alberta. Helps the Habs with salary cap as well.

Habs have Dach playing on the 2nd line and 1st PP. He has 4 goals in his last 10 games. Pelletier passed through waivers previously. He likely has some value, maybe a late round pick. But he is nowhere close to Dach value.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I think they’d only trade Sharangovich if they got value for him and I really doubt that is happening with how he is playing. They need cap more than cap space right now and they might as well stick with him and hope he bounces back.

Thing is, he really isn't playing poorly, but he is just not producing offensively.

Not that it matters much because I doubt Conroy is very interested in moving him and because he is in a black hole of offense, also doubt he is all that coveted with the term he has attached.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Thing is, he really isn't playing poorly, but he is just not producing offensively.

Not that it matters much because I doubt Conroy is very interested in moving him and because he is in a black hole of offense, also doubt he is all that coveted with the term he has attached.

If he was scoring at a 30 goal pace gain then I think he'd actually have some good value and a trade could make sense but right now it would just be for a reclamation project.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

If the Flames picked up Grubauer I suspect they would buy him out this summer. They have a better younger goalie in the AHL right now and they can afford to buy him out. If that is all it cost to get Shane Wright it would be a good deal.

Unlikely, at least in the short term.

If they trade Andersson (without a contract coming back) they would be under the floor.

Adding Grubauer, and sending him to the Wranglers, would add about $4.5M to their cap total, which would help them stay above the floor over the next couple years.

Can always buy him out later, if you need to.

[Toonage]

The more I think about that trade the less sense it makes from a Seattle perspective.

They get worse, though they gain a 1st round pick. But they're 4 years into their existence and want to make the playoffs. Pelletier & Vladar don't get you there. And Wright has been playing well of late.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I think it could cost close to 2 1sts to get Wright though.

Vladar is worth maybe a 3rd - he's a pending UFA goalie in a market that isn't great for people moving goalies right now. Seravelli was on 960 yesterday and said even a 3rd might be tough at this point as the goalie market dried up a bit.

I love Pelletier but he's a guy who cleared waivers earlier this year, he's likely not worth much more than a 3rd in a trade and his value isn't close to a 1st anymore.

Wright is a 21 year old former 4th overall pick that has played at a 20 goal, 41 point pace during his last season and a bit of NHL games.

Maybe it's a 2nd instead of the 1st but I do think another asset would be needed on the Flames side and I think it would have to be the 1st.

But the value of taking Grubauer is massive.

Originally Posted by D as in David

Buying Grubauer out this summer would result in the following cap hits over the next four seasons.

• $1,983,333
• $3,083,333
• $1,683,333
• $1,683,333
  

Exactly. More than $8.3M in a buyout, or $11.8M over the next two seasons, if they don't buy him out. Even though the value of cap space has come down significantly, you're not getting another team to take that much money/space off your hands without a lot of consideration. I would argue that is still worth a 1st and 2nd, or at the very minimum, 2 2nds.

So the cost of Wright would be 1st + 2nd + Vladar (2nd-3rd) + Pelletier (2nd-3rd). Combining Vladar and Pelletier to the equivalent of a 2nd + 3rd, and you get:

1st + 2nd + 2nd + 3rd

That seems plenty for Wright. Throwing in another 1st is too much.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Do fans think the Flames will attempt to trade Sharangovich before his NTC kicks in, or do you think the Flames are still committed to the player?

No reason whatsoever to trade Sharangovich.

Their problem will be staying above the floor over the next couple years, not managing to the ceiling. Also, they need goal scoring - Sharangovich is having a bad year, but he can score. Trading him now would mean selling low, and then having to replace him with someone else anyway. Makes no sense.

He is a guy they look to trade in 4 years, when he has a year or two left on his deal.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Toonage

The more I think about that trade the less sense it makes from a Seattle perspective.

They get worse, though they gain a 1st round pick. But they're 4 years into their existence and want to make the playoffs. Pelletier & Vladar don't get you there. And Wright has been playing well of late.

Agreed, if Seattle was dumb enough to table that then the trade should be done. Pelletier is a total toss in at this point.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

No reason whatsoever to trade Sharangovich.

Their problem will be staying above the floor over the next couple years, not managing to the ceiling. Also, they need goal scoring - Sharangovich is having a bad year, but he can score. Trading him now would mean selling low, and then having to replace him with someone else anyway. Makes no sense.

He is a guy they look to trade in 4 years, when he has a year or two left on his deal.

I don’t think this team is going to struggle to hit the floor. They have no large contracts expiring in the next couple of years. Andersson at $4.55 and Backlund at $4.5M next year and Coleman at $4.9M the year after that. Zary, Coronato, Wolf, Bahl will all get sizable raises.


I doubt they try and move Sharangovich before the start of next year but I really disliked that deal from the moment it was signed.

[Monahammer]

I want to believe the Wright rumor so bad, but it's too good to be true. We'd have to be giving something else fairly substantial up in the trade.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I don’t think this team is going to struggle to hit the floor. They have no large contracts expiring in the next couple of years. Andersson at $4.55 and Backlund at $4.5M next year and Coleman at $4.9M the year after that. Zary, Coronato, Wolf, Bahl will all get sizable raises.


I doubt they try and move Sharangovich before the start of next year but I really disliked that deal from the moment it was signed.

If they trade Andersson this year, they will have to do something (take back a contract) to remain above the floor.

They will not be constrained by the cap any time soon. In a few years, when (if) they are, he'll be tradable. As will Kadri and Weegar. The Flames will not struggle with cap constraints for quite a while.

So his contract is pretty irrelvant.

[mdubz]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I want to believe the Wright rumor so bad, but it's too good to be true. We'd have to be giving something else fairly substantial up in the trade.

Sounds like the kind of rumour an organization would float out to a person to track who is leaking information….

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

If they trade Andersson this year, they will have to do something (take back a contract) to remain above the floor.

They will not be constrained by the cap any time soon. In a few years, when (if) they are, he'll be tradable. As will Kadri and Weegar. The Flames will not struggle with cap constraints for quite a while.

So his contract is pretty irrelvant.

Agree to disagree. Not sure how you can predict a contract that has 5 more years term after this year is irrelevant in terms of impacting the cap unless you are strapping in for a Sabres style rebuild where this team is going to be a dumpster fire for the next 6 years.